Superchargers for Mk2 Golf 8V Digifant

[Golf Loon]

Oh c'mon, 2k for the motor, 1k for install and 2k for the ECU, thats 5k. We're talking just about a swap here, not including everything that should be done at the same time like clutch, diff etc.

To do it properly it would take 10k yes I agree with you on that.

Whats the point of doing it if the clutch etc is not upto it and will just break straight away??

Theres a lot of stuff you havent considered Houso. Intercooler, piping, a hundread litlle clips and brackets, ancillaries that are not included in your bargain engine, getting the haltec tuned, if you can find someone to set it up competently on that motor in this country.

And a lot more than 1ks worth of labour.

10k is more realistic.

[Jarred]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, are you talking about using a 2L block and 1.8L head to up the compression ratio?

Engine swaps in golfs are relatively straight forward with a bit of mechanical knowledge, and plenty of time. (research)

This is all my opinion of course.
If you want 150(odd)HP:
a 16V will achieve ~165HP with intake, cams and exhaust. I'm not to savvy on digi/ECU though, but an aftermarket mircotech LXT8, would be something to look at. (or any other stand alone - only if nessecary). Without ECU, around 3K would be very achievable, providing you can do most/some of the work)

an 8V can achieve achieve that 150HP. a member on here had a 1.8L on kJet, with 135odd HP, with minor mods, but it still involved a full rebuild.
To get 150 HP, you'd need big compression and lots of head work and lots of other work. this would be easily more than the cost of a 16V + mods, excluding ECU.
The other option with an 8V is to supercharge or turbocharge, but again the cost would be much more than the 16V option (factory ECU) and unless you were to fully modify and build the 8V, in stock form only 200HP is reasonable, This option would cost about 4-5K. (not including instalation and custom work, and on a standard engine)

Hope that helps.

[Preen59]

Whats the point of doing it if the clutch etc is not upto it and will just break straight away??

Theres a lot of stuff you havent considered Houso. Intercooler, piping, a hundread litlle clips and brackets, ancillaries that are not included in your bargain engine, getting the haltec tuned, if you can find someone to set it up competently on that motor in this country.

And a lot more than 1ks worth of labour.

10k is more realistic.

Exactly.

That -BOLT ON- supercharger kit seems like a good deal. Good realiable horsepower, good drivability, probably comes with WARRANTY.

Why do you guys think that engine swapping is so cheap and easy? It's not and a 1.8t on haltech will NEVER be as nice to drive as a proven well refined positive displacement supercharged 8v still running what is basically a factory fuel system.

And really, have any of you people driven a 200hp daily driver Mk1 or 2? 200hp is freaking **** loads. Hell, 150 is more than enough. Stop discrediting performance enhancement setups simply because they don't quote stupid power outputs. 10 squillion horsepower isn't everything, especially in a light, FWD ROAD CAR.

[bam87]

Whats the point of doing it if the clutch etc is not upto it and will just break straight away??

Just ordered brand new clutch set up from america should be arriving soon.
I asked around before posting this and was told that the swap to 16V so i can strap on a turbo would be more costly then the supercharger kit, Jmac also pointed out that if superchargers were not a viable option why would they have put them on the 1.3 polo and a G60 carado?

Blake

[Jarred]

Just ordered brand new clutch set up from america should be arriving soon.

Blake

I dont think he was referring to your car.

Did you have a power figure in mind, or did you just see the kit and think, "that looks good.." if you dont mind me asking?

[static1800]

Oh c'mon, 2k for the motor, 1k for install and 2k for the ECU, thats 5k. We're talking just about a swap here, not including everything that should be done at the same time like clutch, diff etc.

To do it properly it would take 10k yes I agree with you on that.

16v is a different thing but i am in the process of pricing up an order from techtonics, includes all sorts of engine things to do my mk1 16v swap; new hoses, dizzy cap, rotor button, clutch kit, new mounts. new belts, gasket sets etc. plus a whole of other things i'm yet to finalise my total is over 1k US already and im not going over the top with it all. A 20vt doubles the cost of it all and that is just little engine components that are worth replacing engine swaps are not cheap!

Anyway back on topic.

Like i said the kit looks ok, bang for your buck you could maybe do some similar local options and achieve similar power. BB seem to put alot of work into there components and kits and i'm sure it would be a scream, plus all the stuff you need will come in one big box for you to put together with instructions.

Have a good look through vortex, I bet some of the US guys have run this setup.

[bam87]

Yeah I got that lol after posting I do eventually want to upgrade engine but didnt necessarily want to swap, was looking for turbo charging but came across the supercharger and thought at least thats a viable option, I was thinking around the 150hp, also a mate said should also do exhaust, extractors and intake.

Blake

[Golf Loon]

There is a green supercharged Mk1 floating around. I have been in it once and it was awesome.

The car was running a Mk3 2l and efi setup and with a flick of the switch the supercharger let rip.

That car was made by a knowledgeable bloke with a jap supercharger and untold hours of time. I dont know about numbers on paper, but whatever it made it got to the floor and hauled asss.

I have been in a few quick Mk1s and had a couple and that green thing always makes me smile.

[Oneofthegreats]

Oh c'mon, 2k for the motor, 1k for install and 2k for the ECU, thats 5k. We're talking just about a swap here, not including everything that should be done at the same time like clutch, diff etc.

To do it properly it would take 10k yes I agree with you on that.

I hope your joking GH.

If it's that cheap, why haven't you done it yet.

In fact why haven't I done it yet?

I've got the engine, it's been installed.

Wow, all I need is 2K for an ecu & I'm away!

Back on topic.

I've seen some BBM stuff. It isn't all that it's cracked up to be. That's just my opinion.

People also forgot that these tunes that are programmed elsewhere, aren't suited for our condition's out here either.

If your chasing 150hp, I'd go with either a rebuilt N/A 8V to suit the power requirement, or a ABF 16V swap.

[Spyda]

If you want more power your going to need more cylinders .

A mk2 needs a vr6. Dont worry about 16v 150hp 2L, 8v s/c, stand alone ecu blah blah blah.

Proven, 5K will get you a mk2 vr6 with ~165hp and whole bunch of sex from the exhuast. A little more for cams, exhaust and all that and you can do close to 200hp not to mention tourque.

You all seem to forget that when you are going to add hp you need to be able to stop and all that borring stuff aswell. Suspention, brakes, braces, roll bars, bushers, mounts will set you back atleast 3k.

..... VR6.....