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    Yeah, all GTI's were 3 door at the beginning of the MkII run. Then they went to 5 doors and 16V's. Thank god for 3 doors... (except for having kids, which meant I had to trade my MkV GTI on the Skoda...)

    Oh, and Ben: this has the proper 8V engine in it. The K-Jet 112bhp jobbie. This one is tweaked, too. Ask Tim how quick it was when he was down in Canberra with his Mini.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgolf View Post
    Oh, and Ben: this has the proper 8V engine in it. The K-Jet 112bhp jobbie. This one is tweaked, too. Ask Tim how quick it was when he was down in Canberra with his Mini.
    The proper engine is the 16v no offense, your engine is the proper jobbie for the mk1 Gti.

    And if you're trying to maintain the originality why is it tweaked?

    Great to see it in excellent condition either way.

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    Hmmm... Yeah, while the 16V is the lauded after engine, there is a school of thought which says the 8V is the better all rounder. The 16V is the best drivers car, but the 8V is more drivable everyday with its lower rev torque band. On serious drives, you change gears in the 8V less frequently to be in the right power band, especially for lower speed corners. But yeah, the 16V is the ultimate MkII for drivers. I love my 8V. It puts out 101bhp at the wheels, which is about 5 less than the 16V's.



    My comment about the proper 8V engine was a fun dig at the later pollution restricted heavier 8V models... At least they have A/C...

    As for originality, other than the mild blueprint, everything that has been done to the car is reversible. It looks stock, but with aftermarket wheels. Subtlety was the name of the game.
    Last edited by mrgolf; 07-10-2009 at 04:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgolf View Post
    there is a school of thought which says the 8V is the better all rounder. The 16V is the best drivers car, but the 8V is more drivable everyday with its lower rev torque band.............. It looks stock, but with aftermarket wheels. Subtlety was the name of the game.
    That school of thought is completely incorrect, the 16v has more torque throughout the entire rev range. Been proven several times on the UK forums.

    Still a great car, totally agree with the subtlety, key for all golfs if you ask me.

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    great to have you back

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausgolfer View Post
    That school of thought is completely incorrect, the 16v has more torque throughout the entire rev range. Been proven several times on the UK forums.
    So, if there has been discussion on UK forums, it is clearly a subjective question, then...

    I guess it more relates to not having to ring the neck out of the engine (because there isnt a huge amount of point revving over 5500) to get the best out of it. To get the best out of a valver, you need to go above 6K. Maybe thats a better way of looking at it. Either way, the valver is the best 'power' engine. The 'proper' 8V is just a little maligned. Damn fine little unit if you ask me. And seeing that later GTI's weighed more, I guess they needed the extra power...

    Me, I just love my early II.
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    8v Kjet GTI is the one for me. The most fun you can have with your pants on.

    Nice to see you and your car back Steve.
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    wait, puts out 101 ATW? 5 less than the 16v. maybe its just me, but at the flywheel the 8v had the GZ 112hp engine and the KR16v had the 139hp both running the k-jet no Catalytic converter.

    in regards to best stock engine the 3G 16vg60 stock engine was the best ever built for a mk2 i think aswell. but thats only if you drove a AWD car.
    210hp stock is quite a bit to keep on the road with 247nm at 5k rpm.
    and modified engine, best ever available for a mk2 without going to 20v mk4 was the MK3 ABF 2L 16v with 150HP.
    There was also a extremely modefied version of that engine built by VW Motorsport running 208hp stock. Beast of a car.
    and there was a prototype engine based on the ABF aswell called A59 @275hp with 367NM.
    Just my 2 cents worth of thought.
    Last edited by jeanheide; 07-10-2009 at 07:43 PM.
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    Hi Steve. Haven't seen you in a while!

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    I owned both 8v and 16v when still in the uk and woukd have chose the 8v over the 16.. Guess I can't really comment though... now I'm driving a Mk 2 Tdi!

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