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    Engine problems.

    I put a new head on my 8v, torqued it all up, set the timing marks. Checked all the hoses/lines and even turned the intermediate shaft over to prime the head.

    Went to start it, started fine, ran for about 2-3 seconds, then a crack and knocking sounds. Killed the motor. Checked timing marks again- all good.

    Started it again, same thing, 3 seconds then knock knock. Killed it.

    What could this be and do I need to take the head off again to see or what?

    It was a brand new reco head.

    Any help/ideas appreciated.

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    Plugs out and have a look with a torch. Cam cover off and rotate the motor with 19mm 12 point socket on the crankshaft. Listening and feeling for something touching.

    I am also wondering if the crank pulley has spun, so the the whole thing isn't timed right. It's not enough to just line up the marks. You need to check that number 1 piston is at TDC when the timing marks says it should be. I have had this personally and it stumped me for quite a while.

    What's your oil pump like? Make sure the strainer isn't blocked up by dropping the sump.

    Gavin

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    Check what Gavin said..

    But, what sort of knocking? Does it have oil pressure? It could have no oil pressure causing rod noise.. And that's REALLY bad.

    When it idles.. Does it idle smooth? Or is it really ill sounding?

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    Pulled the head off (again) and found a piece of metal that was beaten into the top of piston 2 crown. Only small, but enough to knock. BUT now, I have a tap tap sound (which is why i swapped heads in the first place!) only happens when on throttle.

    Checked the valves and it was fine. All valves open/close the same amount, no noises or anything.

    Idle wise- it's sorta smooth, but I'm not sure if it's the cam that is making it idle lumpier or there's something else. Is there an oil passage that could be blocked? When I turned the intermediate shaft, I get a decent spurt of oil from the oil passage between 3/4 cylinder, but nowt at the 1/2 end of the head.

    I have oil, oil pressure is about 3.5-4 bar when warm (Audi VDO gauge and sender) but then I get the oil buzzer/light coming on occasionally.

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    Doesn't sound good...

    Does it knock at idle, or is it ok until you bring the RPM up?

    Sounds to me like you have a fooked big end.. Which would also explain oil pressure issues. Is there any particles in the oil? I'd be pulling the pan off and checking your big end bearings if there is.

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    I'll take a video of it tomorrow. There's no knocking, just a tapping sound, like a valve on piston sound, but it happened with my old head and with this one.

    It's more noticable when on revs, but I think it could be the 4 branch and the leaky exhausts which mask it abit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by h100vw View Post

    What's your oil pump like? Make sure the strainer isn't blocked up by dropping the sump.

    Gavin
    Yup, I`d do that for sure, take the sump off, clean out the strainer and bolt it all back together. I bet the strainer is full of slurry and metal bits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golf Loon View Post
    Yup, I`d do that for sure, take the sump off, clean out the strainer and bolt it all back together. I bet the strainer is full of slurry and metal bits.

    Nothing in the strainer, but the oil was a bit sludgey. Just had 10w40 in there for a bit, and changed it for 30w40 (High Mileage engine Oil). Seems to be better, though the buzzer came on briefly at 2k RPM, but is now temperamental. The oil pressure gauge at the top of the head is reading 2-3.5 bar at idle. I have a new oil pump to go in, but I'm going to wait and see what happens with this new oil.

    Oil was browny green (Colour Blind) But it wasn't red! That's after about 300kms!!!

    My Oil pressure light and buzzer keep coming on, I've disconnected the wire and earthed it. I have a new sender coming in, So I'll wait and see what happens.
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