Beaten down by a Nova.

[Preen59]

also for the record, please do not post up threads which include street racing incidents as VWWA does not, nor will ever advocate or encourage street racing of any kind.

Thank you for not referring to it as "Drag Racing". I hate it when people do that. It gives drag racing a bad name.

[Oneofthegreats]

however the 8v should be able to make a healthy 130-140hp with "bolt ons" mentioned above. The 8v is a great engine that many people have made good power from reliably, therefore there are many aftermarket solutions for your problem.

Bolt on's will never make that sort of power. Especially starting off with a mk2 GTI Ozzy spec engine!

It takes the right combination of part's & knowhow to make that sort of power. Higher CR, headwork, cam, timing mod's, intake mod's, throttle body, Larger K-Jet gear, exhaust & the list goes on etc.
Not just bolt on's.

Even with all the little thing's I had done to my engine, it made approx 135hp working of MPH & weight which is good for the CR I had, but it wasn't bolt on's. There were a few little trick's here & there that made it.

An autotech 270 cam & cam gear will set you back $240US + Postage Approx $60US

IMHO the Ozzy spec 8V is just as good as the GX. Only useful for taking the rubbish to the tip!

From what I've been told by G60 owner's oversea's, there not that great.
The times & MPH I ran with my GTI were faster than a stock G60!

[Peter Jones]

Thank you for not referring to it as "Drag Racing". I hate it when people do that. It gives drag racing a bad name.

Yeah don't disrespect 'da drag racing, they've got enough image problems as it is.

[Preen59]

Yeah don't disrespect 'da drag racing, they've got enough image problems as it is.

Hahahaha! You're a bad man pete!

[Peter Jones]

Bolt on's will never make that sort of power. Especially starting off with a mk2 GTI Ozzy spec engine!

It takes the right combination of part's & knowhow to make that sort of power. Higher CR, headwork, cam, timing mod's, intake mod's, throttle body, Larger K-Jet gear, exhaust & the list goes on etc.
Not just bolt on's.

Even with all the little thing's I had done to my engine, it made approx 135hp working of MPH & weight which is good for the CR I had, but it wasn't bolt on's. There were a few little trick's here & there that made it.

An autotech 270 cam & cam gear will set you back $240US + Postage Approx $60US

IMHO the Ozzy spec 8V is just as good as the GX. Only useful for taking the rubbish to the tip!

From what I've been told by G60 owner's oversea's, there not that great.
The times & MPH I ran with my GTI were faster than a stock G60!

Gotta agree here (especially about the GX), the only way to make a fast motor is to have deep pockets.

The cam won't make much difference if you're low on compression.

A cheap way out might be a MK3 1800 heart transplant with a few bolt ons.

Pete

[Spyda]

Gotta agree with that. An 8v mk2 should never have been a gti, unless you include the G60 gti.

And this is not a debate about 16v VS 8v (the fact of the matter is it's been proven several times the 16v is higher power and torque EVERYWHERE in the rev range)

That said I know a lot of mk2 8v gti's have the same problem, both of my mates "aussie" gti's had the spluttering restricted problem. I think it was a simple temp sensor problem in the end....

Temp sendor is brand new. I think it could be O2 sensor but ill see what happens with that.

tutt tutt street racing....

however the 8v should be able to make a healthy 130-140hp with "bolt ons" mentioned above. The 8v is a great engine that many people have made good power from reliably, therefore there are many aftermarket solutions for your problem.


also for the record, please do not post up threads which include street racing incidents as VWWA does not, nor will ever advocate or encourage street racing of any kind.

so please edit your first post

I didnt say anything about being on a street. IT WASNT ON A STREET. IT WAS ON A PRIVATE TRACK.

a drag between an aussie gti and a nova cant really be considered street racing. They were probably overtaken by the rest of the traffic pulling away from the lights anyways

Haha, half the time we where trying to keep up with my other mates VN SS.

get him on some bendies then see who comes out tops.....

OK maybe there are other options as well , but your never going to get enough power out of a 1.8 8v without throwing big dollars at it.

Just dont throw it away and get a skyline....

The GTI stomps on everything around bendies, my commo driving mate couldnt belive how fast it can go around bends, he shizd his panties.
A skyine is prity tempting though, a r32 gtr with some light tunning will munch just about every VW on this forum and at less then half the price of a new GTI.

I dunno about 140 with bolt ons. I have done a bit of reading and found 150 can be made by head work, a 2L bottom end, cams and exhaust. I would be happy with that. Actualy i would be happy with a euro spec 8v that can rev smoothly.
I dont think it can be done for less then $2000, exhaust is about $1500, $800 for head work, $600 for the 2L and other parts. Then there is all the little bits and bobs.
With 140hp, would i have to upgrade the brakes, clutch etc etc?

Dont get me wrong, i love the mk2, unique and all that and handling is fantastic but it so slow.

[jayjay]

eurospec head would be good. you dont even need extracters. i'm not sure which model they're off. possibly a mk3 or seat.. bolt straight on. 4-2-1.

on another note, i had a ride in a beeza cupra with kr cams in it. i wasn't impressed at all... in fact, from what i could tell, my mk2 8v would go as hard/if not harder..

[Mischa]

a drag between an aussie gti and a nova cant really be considered street racing. They were probably overtaken by the rest of the traffic pulling away from the lights anyways

i lol'd filler

[jayjay]

you wont need to upgrade anything... maybe if you have rear drums. clutch no point unless you love burnouts.. is it slammed on coilovers yet? who cares how fast a nova is...

it's a nova.

[Oneofthegreats]

eurospec head would be good. you dont even need extracters. i'm not sure which model they're off. possibly a mk3 or seat.. bolt straight on. 4-2-1.

on another note, i had a ride in a beeza cupra with kr cams in it. i wasn't impressed at all... in fact, from what i could tell, my mk2 8v would go as hard/if not harder..

You still have compression issue's even if you do fit a euro head. Then if you add a big cam, your heading even further backward's due to the cam overlap & bleed off.

You would also want to fit extractor's along with a free flowing (at least 2.25") exhaust system to open up the power band.

Without sounding too cynical, I doubt an aussie spec 8V would feel anywhere near as quick/fast a 16V, especially a ABF with KR cam's.
That's like saying the my stock 80?hp GX feel's just as good as my modded 135hp GX.

If your chasing more power. My advice is an engine swap.
If you still want an 8V, source a complete euro GTI 8V engine with the higher compression ratio 10+:1, as these are a better base to work with.
Also have the better cyl. heads too.
Or try what Pete's doing & fit your top end & accessorie's to a golf 3 2L bottom end.

I ran brand new genuine stock mk1 GTI front brakes & mk2 GTI rear disc's, mk2 16V booster & master cyl., 16V proportioning valves & braided brake lines on my Mk1 & that was more than enough on a race track. Even after 10+ very hard lap's at Symmond's Plain's, I didn't have any braking problem's & could still pull up doing 165+km/h in under 80m.

I'd suggest if your going for power upgrades, is just check & make sure everything is in tip top condition & working order.
Clutch is probably a given & I'd upgrade that accordingly.