1st Gear grind

[Spyda]

The saga continues.

I need some advise and knowledge. 1st gear started grinding a couple of days ago.

What happens is: When im shiffting down it will grind basicly. The higher the revs the harder it is to put it in, i dont dare to put it in at any higher than ~3.5k from second. When i try to put it from 3-2.5k in second its realy difficult and grinds in, when its at 2-1.5k in second it will either clunk in realy hard or grind a little then clunk in. It will only go in 'noramly' when its at idel or a tiny bit above.

I say 'normal' because first gear was always a bit tough to shift in to no matter what revs the car was at.

I tryed to align the shifter properly today, i didnt exactly align it perfectly but i did move it a fair bit from where it was, no change to 1st gear grinding.

The gear box is a mk3 box from Matt (Golf Loon). Cant remember how many Ks on it or what box it is exactly.

Another little thing i was wondering is how much 'free-play' is the gear shift suposa have? Mine has some, i wouldnt say its a little play and wouldnt say it way to much play, it a bit in the middle, you can move it about 1-1.5 if not 2cm from side to side without it moving anything in the gear box.


Help needed prity despritly as i dont want to f'up the box. It will mean buying a commodore.

[velly_16v_cab]

down shifting into first at high revs will give you a problem. sounds like your driving and not the car
at 3500rpm+ you shouldnt need to be dropping it to 1st!

when i was learning to drive i was told if the car is moving then you never use first gear.

it also sounds like you may have some sort of selector mis-alingment or worn bushes.

my old mk2 16v used to be funny selcting 1st, when pulling away i would have to drop it into second then first and it will go in every time. if i tried going straight for first it just wouldnt have it.

[Spyda]

The thing is that it never did it before, but always had a problem shifting.

I may have over exadurated the revs a bit. I admit 2+k in second to first is a bit much and i dont do it oftern, usaly a mistake, but it shouldnt do it when its at 1.5k and under when im slowing to a stop at a red.

I dont shift to first and then go, i shift to first when slowing at a redlight, then stop.

It grinds with the clutch in.

Before the grinding started, sometimes, not on downshift, it would only go half way in to first then when u let go of the clutch it would clunk in all the way.

Also, shifting in to reverse sounds realy bad, big clunk every time.

[velly_16v_cab]

could be abit to do with alingment...but i think selecting 1st while your moving is a no no, esp with an old car. sounds like the 1st gear syncro is dying,

dude, i would think about when shifting to 1st.


also could be wear on your clutch and also clutch cable

[Spyda]

could be abit to do with alingment...but i think selecting 1st while your moving is a no no, esp with an old car. sounds like the 1st gear syncro is dying,

dude, i would think about when shifting to 1st.


also could be wear on your clutch and also clutch cable

Ah well learn from mistakes.

Whats the remedy?

[velly_16v_cab]

damage is done....just dont make it any worse