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Thread: Volkswagen under investigation over illegal software that masks pollution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryeman View Post
    There are basic facts that the media carefully print for the historical record which even Murdoch and Bolt etc understand ...
    Naive.

    I would suggest you have more dealings with the media and then come back and comment.

    It even goes as far as careful selection of photographs they use. Trust me, I've had dealings with print and video media in the past and would not trust them as far as I can throw them. I know the tricks they use to get the quote they want, and have seen how an extended interview gets edited, so much so that the interviewee cannot believe what they have reportedly said.

    You are right, however, in saying "carefully print"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theresanothersteve View Post
    Naive.

    I would suggest you have more dealings with the media and then come back and comment.

    It even goes as far as careful selection of photographs they use. Trust me, I've had dealings with print and video media in the past and would not trust them as far as I can throw them. I know the tricks they use to get the quote they want, and have seen how an extended interview gets edited, so much so that the interviewee cannot believe what they have reportedly said.

    You are right, however, in saying "carefully print"...
    Just so long as you aren't reinforcing the idea that Trump and his cabal deal in are actual facts.
    Thats all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryeman View Post
    Just so long as you aren't reinforcing the idea that Trump and his cabal deal in are actual facts...
    God forbid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theresanothersteve View Post
    God forbid...
    Libel laws are next on Trump's agenda.....the shutting down of the WaPo and NYT.........yr right, god help us!

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    Yet Takata (airbags) potentially has a recall close to 100M cars, resulted in the deaths of a dozen people and the injury to numerous others and get a fine 1/10th that of VW. Not to mention remediation could take 5yrs!

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    Takata have not been caught trying to actively deceiving the authorities and then caught trying to deny and cover up the deception . . . yet.
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    Autocar test shows worse economy after Volkswagen diesel fix

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/i...gen-diesel-fix

    The Autocar test was conducted at Millbrook Proving Ground to the standard set by the True MPG real-world test cycle of our sister title What Car?. The test used the latest international standard equipment for testing vehicles in a scientific and repeatable manner to industry standards.

    It revealed that while NOx emissions were almost halved from 0.639g/km pre-fix to 0.351g/km post-fix, our test car’s combined fuel economy had fallen from 50.72mpg to 47.61mpg. This means that its CO2 emissions increased from 147.3g/km to 156.9g/km, a change of 6.5%.

    The car we tested belonged to reader Jonathan Mudd and was a 2013 Volkswagen Touran fitted with the EA189 1.6-litre diesel engine, one of three units sold in the UK by VW fitted with the cheat software that needs correcting.



    It is understood that the fix to the 2.0-litre diesel models is the most complex.

    Our test focused on the impact on real-world economy of the fix that VW has applied to the engines, but the 2.0-litre engine type is also subject to a growing number of case studies and reports that the fix is causing breakdowns in cars that have had it done.

    A report by the Volkswagen Diesel Customer Forum (VDCF) last month said owners of postfix VWs with the 2.0-litre diesel had experienced breakdowns, increased fuel consumption, reduced performance, increased exhaust smoke, excessive regeneration of diesel particulate filters (DPFs) and DPF failure.

    Exhaust gas regeneration (EGR) valves, turbochargers and fuel injectors are also said to have failed and others report their cars having entered limphome mode or their engines having become noisier.
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    My car is coming up for a service. I'm guessing that they'll ask me when I get there toward applying the software fix to the engine.

    I'm hesitant.

    On one hand, there's the above detail where the fix is a full fix to meet the regulation requirements.
    On the other hand, there's situations where in Australia - even without the cheat being in place it would have met the less strict regulation requirements from the get-go.

    So what software are we getting in Australia? A fix or a removal of the cheat code?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dero View Post
    My car is coming up for a service. I'm guessing that they'll ask me when I get there toward applying the software fix to the engine.

    I'm hesitant.

    On one hand, there's the above detail where the fix is a full fix to meet the regulation requirements.
    On the other hand, there's situations where in Australia - even without the cheat being in place it would have met the less strict regulation requirements from the get-go.

    So what software are we getting in Australia? A fix or a removal of the cheat code?
    You're game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryeman View Post
    You're game.
    Context? Any desire to expand on this line of thought which ads to the discussion or answers toward the questions I've asked?
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