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Thread: Volkswagen under investigation over illegal software that masks pollution

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    Seems the Chinese are more forgiving than the rest of the world , I have often wondered why VW jumped so quickly to give Golf Owners a ten year warranty after the debacle with the DSG in China a few years back . I have a theory on that one and I suspect that as VW had over half a million complaints for their cars with DSG the government probably put huge pressure on VW to come up with a fast fix. I would bet threats to VW to possibly shut down their plants would have made VW do a massive PR exercise to make them more acceptable to customers . IMO .

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    Quote Originally Posted by frantic View Post
    Rofl, 100,000 compared to
    Hmm, 11,000,000 and counting  ,
    wow their really amateur in comparison of health and environmental damages!
    50% fuel consumption, compared to VW's
    4000% emissions debacle.
    This commentator is a bit more direct,
    [url=http://autoexpert.com.au/buying-a-car/how-volkswagen-betrayed-the-world]
    If you believe all of Cadogans drivel you will also believe in fairies and UFO's
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    It's almost like they're trying to hide something.
    If the cheating hadn't been discovered, would they be so anxious to remove it?.
    OF COURSE NOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillbilly View Post
    If you believe all of Cadogans drivel you will also believe in fairies and UFO's
    Sadly, there are lot of people who believe and spread many nonsenses the media feeds them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transporter View Post
    Sadly, there are lot of people who believe and spread many nonsenses the media feeds them.
    Meaning?????
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    It's an interesting issue.

    Many people opt to use a dealer for servicing to ensure they get the latest software. Indeed, I've heard people complain (including on this forum) that their software wasn't updated. Similarly, if a car has been recalled people complain if the recall isn't addressed when the car is serviced.

    And yet the ABC article linked above dedicates a fair amount of space to someone complaining that the dealer intended to update the software as part of a service without their knowledge.

    That's probably fair enough, although in light of what has happened I would expect the dealer would explain they were going to update the software. I have a fairly good relationship with my service manager so we discuss these things, but that is what I expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillbilly View Post
    Meaning?????
    The media is not a reliable source of information. They use word tricks to manipulate stories so you take the side they want you to take. They leave out facts that go against what they want you to believe but reinforce arguments for their stance. They do not present unbiased stories.

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    U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer granted final approval on two key pieces of relief for owners who were duped into buying a dirtier-than-advertised diesel Volkswagen Group product, reports Reuters:

    A federal judge on Thursday granted final approval on an agreement for Volkswagen AG (VOWG_p.DE) to pay at least $1.22 billion to fix or buy back 80,000 3.0-liter vehicles in the United States linked to the German automaker’s diesel emissions cheating scandal.

    At a court hearing in San Francisco, U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer also said he was granting final approval to German auto supplier Robert Bosch GmbH’s separate settlement, under which it will pay $327.5 million to U.S. VW diesel owners for its role in developing the engines.
    While Bosch admitted no wrongdoing in its settlement, the supplier who helped develop the “test mode” Volkswagen used to deceive emissions tests is still forking out a considerable chunk of cash to those who bought affected cars.

    Volkswagen, however, now has an approved plan to fix its 3.0-liter diesel cars, which include the Volkswagen Tourareg, the Porsche Cayenne and a number of larger Audis. You can read more about what goes into the proposed fix and buyback plan here.

    Those opting for a fix will receive between $7,000 and $16,000 in compensation if the emissions fixes are approved by regulators in a timely fashion, per Reuters. However, if regulators don’t okay the fix for all 80,000 3.0-liter diesels, Volkswagen could be on the hook for $4.04 billion instead.

    This comes on top of the $14.7 billion settlement over the 475,000 2.0-liter diesels sold in the United States. The current running total that Volkswagen is having to spend to appease American regulators, owners, states and dealers will reach up to $25 billion, and they still have more to go, as Reuters notes:

    VW still faces outstanding suits from U.S. bondholders, other investors and suits alleging excess carbon dioxide emissions with gasoline-powered Audi vehicles.

    Dieselgate just never seems to end, does it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by theresanothersteve View Post
    The media is not a reliable source of information. They use word tricks to manipulate stories so you take the side they want you to take. They leave out facts that go against what they want you to believe but reinforce arguments for their stance. They do not present unbiased stories.
    There are basic facts that the media carefully print for the historical record which even Murdoch and Bolt etc understand
    and
    there are Trump/interweb/Google/Facebook/Twitter OPINIONS designed to grab eyeballs/friends/followers/fashionistas eg ".....I read somewhere "

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