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I guess the brochures of the time are getting a going over to start with, particularly any mention of 'clean diesel' technology.
Basically misrepresentation.
(I suspect VW fitted the device to all simply to simplify mass production, and for us it was not actually needed to meet the then emissions standards and that's why they claim its removal will have no effect and therefore compensation is not applicable.)
Last edited by Ryeman; 01-09-2016 at 02:52 PM.
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I guess the brochures of the time are getting a going over to start with, particularly any mention of 'clean diesel' technology.
Basically misrepresentation.
(I suspect VW fitted the device to all simply to simplify mass production, and for us it was not actually needed to meet the then emissions standards and that's why they claim its removal will have no effect and therefore compensation is not applicable.)
Last edited by Ryeman; 01-09-2016 at 02:58 PM. Reason: Add
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Game on. So the ACCC appears to be taking the line that the inclusion of the defeat device is deceptive and misleading by VW, not that it necessarily does not meet the emission standards.
Volkswagen emissions scandal: VW taken to court by ACCC over diesel data - Business - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Last edited by feenix74; 01-09-2016 at 10:42 PM.
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The latest in the VW Saga.
Last edited by ian; 02-09-2016 at 09:28 AM.
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I suspect the documentation submitted to the departments of Infrastructure and the EPA contain figures that are not achievable without the device, irrespective of the emissions standards of the time, and that's where VW would leave themselves open to litigation.
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AgreeOriginally Posted by frantic
Along with AGW denial pushed by other 'populists' exploiting the gullible.
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Volkswagen Engineer Pleads Guilty To Fraud Charge Over Diesel Cheating, Could Face Prison
A Volkswagen engineer pleaded guilty today after being indicted for creating a defeat system for the 2.0-liter VW diesel engines that cheated federal emissions regulations, Automotive News reports. It is the first criminal charge handed down as a result of the U.S. Justice Department’s investigation into VW.
A federal grand jury named James Robert Liang in an indictment this June, a document that was only unsealed today. The news site says Liang pleaded guilty to a single charge of “conspiracy to commit fraud against U.S. regulators.”
Liang faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison.
Once again, I don't believe that any employee would risk imprisonment and concoct this cheat without approval from management.
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Yep
Volkswagen engineer charged in emissions probe - BBC News
where will it end?.
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VW Made Its Defeat Device More Potent To Save On Warranty Repairs: Court Docs
Liang and his co-conspirators falsely and fraudulently told, and caused others to tell, U.S. customers and other that a software update in about 2014 was intended to improve the vehicles when, in fact, LIANG and his conspirators knew that the update used the steering wheel angle of the vehicle as a basis to more easily detect when the vehicle was undergoing emissions tests, thereby improving the defeat device’s precision in order to reduce the stress on the emissions control systems.
That’s absurd. According to these court documents, engineers at VW had the audacity to issue a software update to customers that dialed down emissions control usage and spewed more NOx into the environment, just so the company could save a buck.
This also essentially confirms the answer to the question we so often hear – “Why doesn’t Volkswagen just keep ‘testing mode’ on all the time?” Apparently doing so would cause the cars to fall apart.
Last edited by Amalgam; 10-09-2016 at 11:09 AM.
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