Volkswagen under investigation over illegal software that masks pollution

**Amalgam** · 09-07-2016, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by feenix74

I found this latest update from VWA interesting.

I wonder if the fact that the Amarok (as a commercial vehicle) only has to meet EURO 4 is why it is the first vehicle to receive the "update" . . .

I think you have nailed it. Therefore all of our cars ONLY need to meet the emission standards of the time of manufacture not the Euro5 they were trumpeted as, making it much easier for VWAu to achieve with their "fix".

https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/...o_2-Euro_6.pdf

Light Diesel Vehicles

Euro 2 adopted in ADR79/00 from 1/1/02 to 1/1/03
Euro 3 never formally adopted
Euro 4 adopted in ADR79/012 from 1/1/06 to 1/1/07
Euro 5 adopted in ADR79/03 (Core Euro 5) from 1/11/13 and ADR79/04 (Full Euro 5) from 1/11/16

The Australian Government is currently considering the case for adopting Euro 6 through the Ministerial Forum on Vehicle Emissions.
For further information, please visit https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/...rum/index.aspx.

# in each case, the first date applies to vehicle models first produced on or after that date, with all new vehicles required to comply
by the second date.

__________________________________________________ ___________

The “core” Euro 5 requirements which apply in ADR79/03 require compliance with all the technical requirements of UN Regulation 83/06 except that ADR79/03:

 allows the provision of PM mass emissions data based on the previous UN R83/05 (Annex 4) Type I test procedure (with a PM mass emissions limit of 0.005g/km) in lieu of data collected under the revised test procedure (Annex 4a of UN R83/06) which specifies a limit of 0.0045g/km);
 accepts a relaxed OBD threshold limit (80mg/km) for PM mass for M and N category vehicles of reference mass >1760kg;
 does not require compliance with the PM number limit specified for diesel vehicles in UN R83/06;
 does not require compliance with the In Use Performance Ratio for OBD systems in UN R83/06;
 does not require the NOx monitoring for petrol vehicles specified in UN R83/06; and
 only requires flex fuel vehicles to meet the Type VI test when tested on petrol.

Euro 4 was first adopted for light diesel vehicles in ADR79/01, but was effectively replaced by ADR79/02 from 1/7/08

**feenix74** · 10-07-2016, 09:51 PM

It leaves VWA exposed to a claim that they marketed their vehicles as meeting the Euro 5 standard but it has now been demonstrated that this claim is false.

**stefcio007** · 11-07-2016, 10:16 PM

Government should also adopt higher quality fuel if they're going to adopt EURO6...right?

**Greg Roles** · 12-07-2016, 07:02 AM

If you take all the crap out of diesel, you end up with petrol!

**Amalgam** · 12-07-2016, 12:51 PM

Karma

Volkswagen Finds An American WWII Bomb In Their Factory

Volkswagen has been expanding their headquarters in Wolfsburg, perhaps as a way of taking their mind off unpleasant things. During early phases of construction, they found an old American import from the ‘40s: a 400 lb unexploded aerial bomb from World War II.

**team_v** · 13-07-2016, 09:22 AM

EPA Documents Show VW Cheating Posed No Threat to Public Health - Breitbart

**stefcio007** · 14-07-2016, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by stefcio007

Government should also adopt higher quality fuel if they're going to adopt EURO6...right?

I would like to comment on my own post...
I did some research and found that both BP and Shell spec their diesel to 10ppm of sulfur content and they've been doing so for quite some time.
Which also means that the article written in this years RACV magazine that I mentioned earlier is very out of date and the author needs to do some fact checking.

From wikipedia, "Australia has had a limit of 10 ppm since 1 January 2009.^[30] The limit was previously 50 ppm."
"Germany implemented a tax incentive of per litre of "sulphur free" fuel (both gasoline and diesel) containing less than 10 ppm beginning in January 2003 and average sulphur content was estimated in 2006 to be 3-5 ppm."

I think 10ppm if excellent, most countries have moved to 10ppm and some are still transitioning so I don't think EURO6 will change that 10ppm limit.

So there you go, check yourself before you wreck yourself.

**Greg Roles** · 14-07-2016, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by team_v

EPA Documents Show VW Cheating Posed No Threat to Public Health - Breitbart

Finally the whole story is starting to emerge. Good find.

**Amalgam** · 15-07-2016, 06:22 PM

And now the V6

California rejects Volkswagen Group V6 diesel fix â€“ Car Reviews, News & Advice - CarPoint Australia..

The Volkswagen Group’s latest proposal to fix its emissions-cheating V6 turbo-diesel engines has been rejected by California’s chief air quality regulator.

The California Air Review Board (CARB) said the group’s plan to fix about 16,000 rule-cheating 3.0-litre diesels fitted to Audis, Volkswagens and Porsches in the US didn’t go far enough.