Volkswagen under investigation over illegal software that masks pollution

[ian]

Thats like saying you favour Wind Turbines ,The amount of C02 used to build just one turbine will never be recovered in its life time
and it costs 3 time the amout to produce each KW

[team_v]

Thats like saying you favour Wind Turbines ,The amount of C02 used to build just one turbine will never be recovered in its life time
and it costs 3 time the amout to produce each KW

Bingo!

Reliability (and the required redundency) is also a massive issue which renewables just cannot overcome without significant cost increases.

The reality is that your options for a cheap/reliable electricity generation network are fossil fuels or nuclear.

[Ryeman]

I guess all those massive wind farms in the North Sea/English Channel off Norfolk/Suffolk UK are a failure in that case.

[brad]

I guess all those massive wind farms in the North Sea/English Channel off Norfolk/Suffolk UK are a failure in that case.

They look good but the cost of production generally means they are only used for peak load supply when the price is high.

The cost of maintenance & decommissioning is huge. It won't suprise me if the "big power companies" sell their assets to a shelf company about 5 years before the turbines are stuffed and when decommissioning is required, the little company goes broke.

It's a bit like an asset I deal with that supplies water to a hydro-electric power station. The asset costs a bomb to maintain but we can't offload it to the HEPS. We also can't discontinue supply, so we (the tax payer) are stuck with it.

Another HEPS that was on our property was handed back to us by "big electricity supplier" a few years back complete with asbestos, PCBs and lead paint. They gave us a declaration that said the passenger lift was safe to use. We got our own lift people to check it. $30k in compliance repairs and an additional $60k in "recommended safety repairs".

Plus there's the ocean swell generator that is rusting off Wollongong. Commissioned 2006, decommissioned and left to rot 2009. The owners went into receivership in 2014. Maybe it comes out this year at taxpayer expense.

[Amalgam]

Germans Investigating Whether Ex-VW CEO Hid Diesel Cheat From The Public

The Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht—gesundheit!—or BaFin for short is Germany’s federal financial supervisory authority. Prosecutors are now investigating Winterkorn’s role in keeping Volkswagen’s diesel cheat from the public at BaFin’s request, according to a report from The Verge.

Documents revealed that Winterkorn knew of the software cheat that forced diesel vehicles to behave differently in emissions tests over a year before the United States Environmental Protection Agency made the cheat public. One other ex-Volkswagen executive was also named in the investigation, per The Verge, but that name has not been disclosed.

[ian]

Global warming is the biggest con since the bible. Al Gore made. billions out of the gullibility Of people and governments. c02. Is actuall a plant food. And production has actually increased But 97% of all C02 occurs naturally Man is only responsible for just. 3%
Australia only 1.5% of that 3%. You do the maths ,
We can reduce our emissions to zero but it won't have no effect. Unless every county. At the same time agrees to reduce there own.

[Ryeman]

If it's "a con" why "reduce our emissions to zero"......"won't have NO effect" .....which means SOME effect, please quantify.
Can you provide the link to support your 'Bolt' (nominate your own shockjock) version of reality because there are an awful lot of educated farmers who accept the science just like the EU China the USA .....in fact, outside of a small angry rump, there aren't too many prepared to follow your sense of conviction.
Jesse Ventura is needed here I suspect.

[ian]

Of cause you would know. That back in 1970. President. Nixon declared. That if emissions were not reduced. New York. Would be under water by. 10 ft by The year. 2000. What happened. Ryeman Nothing. It's like the end of the polar bears. This year there was a great increase in their numbers. The Antartic has the most ice in 30 years.
Yes don't let a few facts get in the way of a bad argument.

[feenix74]

I guess Diesel-gate could be worse, at least it has not been implicated in killing a Trekkie . . . yet

[stefcio007]

So let's say global warming or climate change is a con. Shouldn't we still be concerned about pollution where we live just on the health risks alone? Whether or not it has an effect on the global environment as a whole. I mean, surely that's at least one of the reasons we have emissions standards car manufacturers have to follow.