Volkswagen under investigation over illegal software that masks pollution

[Hillbilly]

Just received an update on the Diesel software cheat and VW are now claiming they have a solution ,that will not effect engine output or fuel economy whats your thoughts

Wait and see if it works. What else can you do

[Greg Roles]

Wait and see if it works. What else can you do

Postulate and freak out?

[Hillbilly]

Postulate and freak out?

Hardly worth getting in a lather about when we dont really know anything is it?

[ParaBul]

Postulate and freak out?

It gives me something to do when I'm not causing respiratory problems in children.

[Greg Roles]

It gives me something to do when I'm not causing respiratory problems in children.

Considering most 3.0 litre tradie utes like the D-Max have only recently gotten DPF's and proper NOX cats, not sure why you feel bad. For sure VW is putting out higher than expected, but how high compared to the typical Australian diesel?

[Eaglen00b]

Considering most 3.0 litre tradie utes like the D-Max have only recently gotten DPF's and proper NOX cats, not sure why you feel bad. For sure VW is putting out higher than expected, but how high compared to the typical Australian diesel?

Heh... I was behind an old Hilux Surf early this morning as I got on the freeway. The Surf was rolling coal from around 45kph on the on ramp for a good 2-300m to get up to 100kmh. DAYUMMMMMMn.

[Greg Roles]

Heh... I was behind an old Hilux Surf early this morning as I got on the freeway. The Surf was rolling coal from around 45kph on the on ramp for a good 2-300m to get up to 100kmh. DAYUMMMMMMn.

Oddly enough, as much as we all hate seeing and breathing that obvious black soot, the fact is you just cough that back up. It's the nano soot from DPF's that is starting to show up in peoples bloodstreams, seems it is directly absorbed via the lungs. Only with further added catalyst do you burn that down to virtually zero, luckily on smaller diesels the levels are low. There is no free lunch with regard to emissions.

Different story with NOx, the whole crux of this debate, but oddly enough that's far easier to handle, at least in my sports DPF testing. I do however have a much bigger initial NOx cat than the MK6 era diesels, only in the MK7 do VAG get serious with the NOx cat size. It does seem odd to me they had so much trouble with what is from an initial glance, a very very well designed system. Then again I'm not trying to meet the very latest Euro levels set in the USA, and each level is an order of magnitude harder to meet.

[Ryeman]

Just received an update on the Diesel software cheat and VW are now claiming they have a solution ,that will not effect engine output or fuel economy whats your thoughts

I'd be saying to them - show me the before and after torque and power curves, before you have anything done to it.

[Cossor]

Just found this link on an older Passat posting.
This explains in detail how exhaust filter works.

http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_336.pdf

OK This is for older TDI systems, with common rail just coming in.
It does however explain how complex this whole system is, and why no simple solution.

[twincab]

Received an e-mail from Skoda Aus. stating that our '14 125kw Superb 4x4 is fitted with the EA189 engine and has the offending software. No surprise, will have to wait till the smoke clears.

Well the class action deadline has passed and we didn't sign up. Went on the MB web site to sign up, filled in all the imformation, got to the page with the aggreement/contract After wading though it and not understanding most of it got cold feet and backed out. I know it's not supposed to cost anything but we don't have a legal background and all the bits about uplift fees and everything else was doing our head in.
Have we done ourselves out of compensation, probably.