Volkswagen under investigation over illegal software that masks pollution

[Swallowtail]

In this respect, unlikely VW legal would attempt to recover costs from individual litigants. However it is possible a future lollipop (As per USA) may be not available to those identified as part of a class action. EG Class action achieves $1000.00 But lollipop to individuals worth $1500.00.
OK, I'm dreaming re VAG even offering a lollipop as in USA. (VW although apparently is also making offers in England)
So I am trying to consider if VW or VAG will treat fairly those customers loyal to VW, but may be less considerate if part of a class action, then trying to later obtain an advantage from VAG.

Do you often have conversations with yourself?

ANYONE posting opinions here on possible outcomes of litigation, or what parties to litigation are likely or unlikely to do, is treading VERY shaky ground. Any decisions you (or anyone else) makes needs to be your decision in consultation with those qualified to help.

To anyone reading any of this and thinking to rely on any of the content with regard to litigation - be cautious.

Also, what happens overseas, whether in the USA or Europe, has very little to do with what will happen here.

[Transporter]

Yeah, I'd rather find a better paid job, than hopping to squeeze a dollar from this situation. In other words, I'd have to be stretched financially and pretty desperate.

[Ryeman]

I'd like to know if SCR is a positive for owners.
Id like to know if the EGR valve is likely to do less work (if there is one) with SCR equipped engines and thus be less likely to need work or replacing due to fouling.......or is AdBlue that expensive it only adds to the expense over the long run?

[Transporter]

So if a person backs into your vw, and then drives away leaving you with $7-10,000 worth of repairs you don't take their number plate and get your insurance company to sue for repairs? ROFL what tripe.
Vw by their own admission have deceived govts and consumers causing a drop on resale values on all 07-15 models of anything from a few grand to well over $10,000. But you just recommend "suck it up"! I know you work on vws but that sounds like you work for vw.
Then again with the amount of recall work, you could be a subbie in the future repairing botched egr and other short term fixes.

You choice of comparison (to the accident) doesn't surprise me at all.

[Swallowtail]

I didn't say accident, let's say they damage your vw on purpose?

Regardless of how I feel about the subject, I see what you did there...

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[Timbo]

Quite on point
The Worst Part About Volkswagen's Diesel Scandal Is Notes From Unhinged Assholes

[Rawcpoppa]

CARB chair says VW likely will buy back some diesels

CARB chair says VW likely will buy back some diesels

WASHINGTON -- The chief of the California Air Resources Board says Volkswagen “likely” will buy back at least some of the roughly 325,000 VW vehicles using the first generation of its 2.0-liter diesel with emissions-masking software.

In a question-and-answer interview with German business newspaper Handelsblatt, CARB Chairman Mary Nichols says the agency expects that vehicles with the first generation of VW’s 2.0-liter diesel engine will require a hardware “retrofit” to bring their emissions into compliance. The trouble is, Nichols said, such retrofits have struggled to achieve their intended goals in the past.

“We have seen in the past that retrofit devices just don’t work as well as they are intended to, even if it is being done by the original manufacturer,” Nichols told Handelsblatt. “So I think it is quite likely that they will end up buying back at least some portion of the fleet from the current owners.”

Nichols’ statements, made before reviewing VW’s fix proposal that it must submit to CARB today, marks the first time a regulator has said vehicle buybacks may be a necessary part of VW’s plan to fix its roughly 482,000 noncompliant diesels.

A Volkswagen spokeswoman said the automaker plans to submit its fix proposal to the EPA and CARB but declined to discuss specifics.

Nichols told the German business paper that the agency has 20 business days to review the proposal.

“Meanwhile there will be continuing investigations to determine the scope and extent of the problem that will relate to penalty decision and any other legal actions that might be taken,” Nichols told Handelsblatt.

VW has said about 325,000 of the noncompliant vehicles are powered by the first generation of VW’s 2.0-liter diesel engine, which uses a lean NOx trap to clean up smog-forming nitrogen oxide emissions. The second- and third-generation diesels use selective catalytic reduction exhaust aftertreatment systems and will need more modest fixes.

Nichols told Handelsblatt that the second-generation engine, used on about 90,000 Passats from the 2012-14 model years, may require software and hardware changes. The third-generation 2.0-liter diesels, used on about 67,000 VWs from the 2015 model year and later, can produce compliant emissions with a software change alone.

[Amalgam]

EPA: Volkswagen Admits 3.0-Liter V6 Diesels Violated Emissions Laws Too

Reuters reports that VW admitted all 3.0-liter diesel V6 engines—found in various VW, Porsche and Audi models—on 2009 to 2016 model year cars also contain software to circumvent emissions laws during testing, despite the initial denial made at the beginning of this month.

[Hillbilly]

How many have joined the class action and what are your expectations. If we lose do we have to pay the uplift fee between us all or what

[Hillbilly]

CARB chair says VW likely will buy back some diesels

CARB chair says VW likely will buy back some diesels

WASHINGTON -- The chief of the California Air Resources Board says Volkswagen “likely” will buy back at least some of the roughly 325,000 VW vehicles using the first generation of its 2.0-liter diesel with emissions-masking software. SNIP

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Which of our vehicles have the "OLDER" motor in them