Volkswagen Issues Global Recall of 2.64 Million Vehicles

[Diesel_vert]

None of us have yet to figure out why you do what you do but there you go

Clearly dissatisfied with the ownership experience.

Parting with a significant amount of cash only to end up with a car that has major issues would put anybody off.

In perspective though, many others have copped it far worse, and that this sort thing can happen to anyone.

[Rawcpoppa]

I have discussed this same issue with friends.

Think carefully.

Volkswagen is based in Wolfsburg, Germany, with a population of 120,000. That's 1/3 the size of Canberra. If it isn't already obvious, I have little faith in start-stop traffic testing in a city like that.

Compare that with Japanese cities. FYI, I've lived in Japan for 2 years. Let me tell you, that if Japanese car makers can't get start-stop traffic proof cars... no one can! Japan is swarming with Japanese made cars that chug along start-stop traffic everyday. Yes, imagine half of the country in worse than Sydney traffic.

Just to give this a bit of context. Darwin has more people than Wolfsburg.

I guess I figured they would test their cars in other regions besides Germany. I constantly read articles online about this model or that model from various manufacturers being tested in some obscure location for heat or cold weather testing for example.

My car has a hot weather climate option in the feature list for example so it lent itself to the notion that they do cater for different regions. I've seen where intercoolers for hot climates are larger than in the cold so that's another example so I figured they would do the same sort of testing and due diligence with their dsg but clearly this isn't the case. It's shocking considering the dq200 is their volume production dsg with the 6 speed dq250 selling in fewer quantities but having fewer issues.


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[ziggyboy]

None of us have yet to figure out why you do what you do but there you go

So even after reading my posts you still do not understand why I dislike VW?

Let me put it this way. Know how you feel about Ford? That's how I feel about VW right now. And many MANY people feel the same way. I know you cannot comprehend how people can feel that way for your beloved, but it's true. Yes, there are people who dislike VW. We exist!

[ziggyboy]

I guess I figured they would test their cars in other regions besides Germany. I constantly read articles online about this model or that model from various manufacturers being tested in some obscure location for heat or cold weather testing for example.

My car has a hot weather climate option in the feature list for example so it lent itself to the notion that they do cater for different regions. I've seen where intercoolers for hot climates are larger than in the cold so that's another example so I figured they would do the same sort of testing and due diligence with their dsg but clearly this isn't the case. It's shocking considering the dq200 is their volume production dsg with the 6 speed dq250 selling in fewer quantities but having fewer issues.


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I'm sure they've "tested" the car in hot weather, but doubt it's extensive enough to replicate real life. This means consistently driving in start-stop daily for hours. I got my car when I was still in Sydney. Lived out west and worked in the airport area. I would drive at least 1 hour each way to work in peak hour traffic. That's 2 hours start-stop daily. My car started to shudder after about 3 months, and had one false neutral in that span of time.

There are people like Candyman who live in places like the Sunshine Coast. Doubt traffic is anything like Sydney, Tokyo or Beijing traffic.

[ziggyboy]

Forget the money. In the interests of your health and well-being, my advice would be to get rid of it as soon as it's practicable.

You don't need this in your life.

I know. I originally planned to keep it until about 4.5 years (got 2 years extended warranty). Now I have decided I'll keep it for at least 3 years so my depreciation loss isn't as bad. Bought the car in December 2011 so I've got about a year left. Although knowing myself I feel like I'll get a new car third quarter of 2014. (Sorry Candyman you'll have to put up with me for another 6-9 months in VWW and Whirlpool )

Not the best time to sell VW's at the moment too, so might wait a bit. In a way I hope VW's reputation gets better in a year so I can sell my car for a reasonable price.

[Rawcpoppa]

Aside from the dsg issues does the car give you trouble otherwise? I'm guessing your car was one of those in the recall earlier this year for mechatronic replacement?

[ziggyboy]

My air conditioner blower has problems too but it only happens after continuous use (like 2+ hours continuous driving/aircon use). It's like the blower flaps all close even if the aircon is switched on. Anyway, no one could fix it.

[squibby]

That's not what the saying "at the end of the day" is used for.

At the end of the day, a few million cars are getting recalled for DSG problems which have inconvenienced and infuriated thousands. We don't all go and say "oh yeah, VW makes quality cars and have been for years". Again, wrong use of the saying.

"At the end of the day" is like saying "all things considered". I think it's a fair comment myself to say that all things considered VW have been making quality car for years. I was insinuating that perhaps their reputation shouldn't be thrown out the window because of a major recall concerning a relatively new technology in a production car. If the recall doesn't fix the issue then I'd have to reconsider my opinion for sure...

[Diesel_vert]

Certainly, the perceived quality and build construction of their vehicles are generally sound.

However, as far as sheer mechanical reliability is concerned, the group still have some work to do.

Looking at the overall picture, they (like most European manufacturers - BMW and Mercedes included) generally trail the Japanese in that respect - or never really caught up with them once they took over, depending on one's perspective.

[ziggyboy]

I have just had the June recall completed on my car (118TSI+DSG7).

Mechatronics and DSG oil was changed. I've had the chance to briefly speak to one of the VW mechanics and he said that the original June recall included the DSG oil change to mineral and it has always been part of the recall from the start. This oil is apparently supposed to last for the life of the gearbox.

Now here's the thing... if it's included in the original recall then why issue a separate recall? It's looking like some people are just getting oil changes without new mechatronics (ie. Nov recall but no June recall). Would that be wise? The synthetic oil may have already damaged their mechatronics but only the oil's getting changed?