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Thread: VCDS mods voiding warranty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Hawk View Post
    For the amazingly lazy... can you link to DV52's guide? (I'm on the run and searching right now isn't so easy )
    Dons guide is referred to in #6 of this link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Hawk View Post
    For the amazingly lazy... can you link to DV52's guide? (I'm on the run and searching right now isn't so easy )
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    The Hawk: I think that chendo was referring to the first document in my thread HERE Enjoy!
    Don

    Chris: clear case of great minds thinking alike (let's not contemplate the final part of this saying)!!
    Please don't PM to ask questions about coding, or vehicle repairs. The better place to deal with these matters is on-line, in the forum proper. That way you get the benefit of the expertise of the wider forum! Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crhendo View Post
    By way of an update..... The dealer has had my car for a second day now while VW Head Office try to determine what is wrong. The Service Manager rang me around lunchtime to advise that VW want the dealership to restore the whole system to "factory defaults" before they will continue their diagnosis. I decided not to argue and I have to say that I was impressed that at least they contacted me first to obtain permission rather than simply make the changes without me knowing. Personally I believe that this is a total overreaction by VW Australia however it does make me consider that perhaps we should be asking the Ross-Tech gurus to include an "undo" "redo" option in their software so we could simply remove all the mods with one keystroke prior to the car going in for a service. Any thoughts on this?
    Chris: I'm very intrigued to understand what your dealer means by restore the whole system to "factory defaults". My understanding is that the ODIS platform that dealers use is very different to the Ross Tech product but I've not heard of a dealer doing a full 100% rebuild of every adaptation channel and every coding value in every control module in the car. Then there is the further matter of a full rebuild of the car's innate programs that have nothing to do with adaptation channels/coding value - but it's possible I guess.

    It's not entirely clear (to me) why such an exercise is necessary at all - unless there is a systemic problem with the car's fundamental DNA (this certainly wasn't suggested from the DTCs in your first auto scan report). Sounds to me like the dealer is either fishing for a solution, or he is not being entirely truthful (again). Either way, you are in the enviable position where you have successful made your problem, the dealer's problem (which is how it should have been from the beginning- that's what warranties are about).

    As for your suggested product enhancement for the RT cable, I suspect that if it were possible at all, then it would take a very long time to implement. A constant reply by RT employees in the RT forum to much simpler suggestions is that there is a very long to-do list of enhancements even now.

    Plus and whilst I'm not discounting the value of your suggestion, the fact is that cable users already have a facility to identify and to roll-back their tweak changes via the CodingLog.txt file. Sure it's a bit clunky and DOS like (I know that you are an Apple man), but with a bit of parsing and with some structuring of the data file which isn't that difficult, it's certainly doable -I think. Especially in your case where there ain't that many changes)

    Cheers and Keep up the good fight against the forces of badness and evil!
    Don

    PS: please let us know what a "full software rebuild" looks like when and if the dealer provides the information
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    Don: sorry I haven't come back to you sooner, I have been travelling.

    VW Australia have made such a fuss about a Customer tampering with "their" system that they insisted the dealer do a complete reset of 5 control modules. Apparently it takes the ODIS system approx. one hour to do each control module so that is all they actually did yesterday before taking my car out for a drive to see if it generated any faults. When I asked the service manager what corrective action they were taking regarding the single "hard fault" that existed in the log he replied that the system reset was the corrective action. When I insisted that this action clearly could not be described as proper diagnosis he simply said he was obeying VW Australia's wishes.

    They have now had my car for three days and so far have made no attempt to contact me today. I am hoping that the process they are taking me through isn't simply to discourage me from "tampering" with my car ever again but I guess only time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattaus View Post
    This thread was an eye opener. I will hopefully be picking up my car later this month. I'm going to take your advice and get myself a cable and educated!

    Thanks.

    EDIT: Can I confirm this will be what I need for a MY16 GTI Performance? I checked the compatibility. 7th and 8th digits are 'AU', and the model year is 'G'. According to the compatibility list the Micro-CAN interface supports '5G-AU'. The 5 is the only part I'm not sure about. I could just get the HEX-USB+CAN, but the Micro-CAN is $100 cheaper so if it will do the same thing for my car I'd rather same the AUD$130!
    There is an an authorized distributor for these cables in Sydney (Mount Autoequip) (they are listed on the Ross Tech website as an authorized dealer. I have recently dealt with them and I must say that their customer service is very good. Additionally they are slightly cheaper than buying one direct from Ross Tech in the states.

    Personally I just got the Micro Can as I am getting an MY16 Mk7 and don't really have a requirement to work on older cars or different models.

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