Thanks for the wake up call, Mum...

[Mrk_Mickey]

I'm only going to withhold what I need to pay for. stage 2 detail from dan, new battery (ideally the same one, it's a heavy duty NRMA battery I'm guessing about $250 installed) and at least a second hand motor because I don't know how long mine will last (we cleaned it and gave it a little WD40 then thoroughly compressor-blow dried it).

That alone comes to $600...

I'm not going to say ''I won't pay you a cent because you broke these". I'm going to say "Look, I'm happy to pay you for the repair, but I want you to pay for the problems you've caused on the car that weren't there beforehand. You damaged this this and this, and it will cost this this and this. I'll get it all done and then show you the receipts and we'll work out who owes who what at the end of it."

[Manaz]

I'm only going to withhold what I need to pay for. stage 2 detail from dan, new battery (ideally the same one, it's a heavy duty NRMA battery I'm guessing about $250 installed) and at least a second hand motor because I don't know how long mine will last (we cleaned it and gave it a little WD40 then thoroughly compressor-blow dried it).

That alone comes to $600...

The stage 2 detail is probably a bit harsh - panel shops aren't detailing experts. You're potentially also stretching it on the battery (again, unless he promised it'd be finished sooner, at which point you could probably claim his delays helped cause the death).

Reasonable on the central locking motor IMHO.

[Mrk_Mickey]

Yeah I agree they're not detailing experts. But, I didn't pay to have my car's paintwork come back in worse condition than I gave it in with. The poor car has swirls on it and buff marks like the subaru in the detailing section

He told me it'd be 2 to maybe 3 weeks so I think I have a fair argument with the battery.

[gldgti]

Yeah I agree they're not detailing experts. But, I didn't pay to have my car's paintwork come back in worse condition than I gave it in with. The poor car has swirls on it and buff marks like the subaru in the detailing section

He told me it'd be 2 to maybe 3 weeks so I think I have a fair argument with the battery.

you can get a really nice battery to suit your needs for lots less than $250 man....

the motor is fair enough. the paintwork... well, your the judge of that and thats between you and him, i dont think its really got much to do with the other matters.

anyways, good luck

[Golf Loon]

Supercheap have massive purchasing power and give 12 months warranty on batterys.

I bought the most expensive bosch one with 650cca for $200. You could go mid range bosch for $120ish.

[Preen59]

Buy a battery for 120 bucks from super cheap. Fix your central locking. Give the car a detail yourself. You've done the detailing course, and you say you know what you're doing, so why pay someone else to do it??


Yes he has given you a bill for more than originally quoted, but it's still ridiculously cheap. Panel work isn't like replacing a waterpump. You can't just say "this will take 45 minutes and cost X", because every job is different. (i'm not saying being a mechanic is easier, though).


Seriously dude... Man up and accept that you're going to have to pay extra. Maaaaaaybe you can talk to him about the central locking and work something out there.


The guy agreed to do it for cash on the side and for cheap.. And now you're going to complain because you can't have your cake and eat it too? That's a little pathetic if you ask me.

[Mrk_Mickey]

The guy agreed to do it for cash on the side and for cheap.. And now you're going to complain because you can't have your cake and eat it too? That's a little pathetic if you ask me.

Listen carefully dude, cos I'm not gonna explain it again.

I paid cash and got no receipts as a favour for him; he didn't ask for cash specifically, nor did he tell me it wasn't gonna be on the books. He wasn't going to charge me more even if I was on the books. I let him do the repair on my car because he told me he WOULD do it for 3700, between 2 and 3 weeks timing. That's a quote even if he didn't write it out, and if people quote it badly then they cop it on the chin! That's how it works, that's exactly what my mate (he's a bike mechanic, among many other things) told me after I explained the situation.

[Spyda]

Listen carefully dude, cos I'm not gonna explain it again.

I paid cash and got no receipts as a favour for him; he didn't ask for cash specifically, nor did he tell me it wasn't gonna be on the books. He wasn't going to charge me more even if I was on the books. I let him do the repair on my car because he told me he WOULD do it for 3700, between 2 and 3 weeks timing. That's a quote even if he didn't write it out, and if people quote it badly then they cop it on the chin! That's how it works, that's exactly what my mate (he's a bike mechanic, among many other things) told me after I explained the situation.

Mate, your right.

There is nothing manly about bending over and leting a panel beater enter your exit hole.

He took an extra 3 weeks, broke your car, blames you for it, does a bad detial job and wants to charge you an extra $700 .

Taking cash usaly helps both of you but in this case it only seems to be helping him and either way that is not an excuse to do a lousy job.

Just for everyones information a panel beaters shop should and do know how to detail a car properly. If its a shiz job then thats because they didnt want to do it any better.

A good panel beater CAN say "this will take 45min and cost X" the reason it takes longer and is more expensive is because the parts price is different to what they quoted and they are usaly slack. If the price does change then they have to let you know BEFORE they do the work. Its not on you its on them!

My best mate is a manager of a panel beating shop and my dad was a panel beater in europe for 20yrs, just for refrence.

You have every right not to pay if the job done is below standard and unrelated parts of the car are busted.

You shouldnt take the bs man, first the insurance d!ks you then this bastard gets you all beacuse some woman didnt get enough sleep.

[Preen59]

Clearly none of you have ever worked for yourselves.

This guy has obviously gone the wrong way about a few things, but ripping him off isn't the way to handle it. You clearly need to learn how to deal with people and here's a prime opportunity.. So instead of bitching about it and saying he ripped you off, hows about doing it the morally correct way?

I'm not really fussed anymore. Burn your bridges, do whatever you want.

[Spyda]

Clearly none of you have ever worked for yourselves.

This guy has obviously gone the wrong way about a few things, but ripping him off isn't the way to handle it. You clearly need to learn how to deal with people and here's a prime opportunity.. So instead of bitching about it and saying he ripped you off, hows about doing it the morally correct way?

I'm not really fussed anymore. Burn your bridges, do whatever you want.

I don't understand why you think he should pay him an extra $700 even though he quoted him less, took longer to finish, the end result wasnt great and stuff came back broken. Whos ripping who off?


Just for refrence ive only ever worked for myself or my old man.