Recall

[Passat my07]

If they turn off this section of the software then they won't pass the test.
If they want to keep the advertised emissions, power, torque and fuel economy I think the engine will need major upgrades. This is why they have cheated in the first place. The tests are hard to meet but others are doing it. The bmw passed the real world test that the vw failed in 2014.
I have no faith in vw anymore.

[wai]

Seems that they can turn off the software so rectification should be fairly simple.

The thing is that it is unlikely that any regulator around the world will trust that to be the case. It is more likely than not that they will require full re-certification of the vehicle as far as the emission test is concerned. Even then, how will they know that there is still not a defeat coat left there? One way would be for the source code in question to be submitted, along with any other code that could potentially contain a defeat code. After all, whenever a test was carried out by the authorities, the vehicles with the questionable code passed.

After all this settles down, it will probably be a case of all manufactures of all cars submitting their code to the regulators to be certified as "defeat code free". If a manufacturer is not prepared to do this, they will not be able to sell into that market.

It is trust, and at the moment, no manufacturer anywhere in the world can be trusted. I mean, before all this was known, who would have thought that the largest vehicle manufacturer in the world would do such a thing?

[booba]

Derr, of course. they would need to now meet emissions legally.. ignore what i said haha.

[brad]

Well they did as the took ownership of the issue immediately and have set aside $ to rectify. They also increased the scale from 500k of cars to millions of cars.. They did lie though.

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I wouldn't describe stalling and telling lies to the government for 12months beforehand as "taking ownership immediately".

To the OP: AFAIK, there is no recall yet. To do a recall you need a fix. You also need to know precisely which vehicles are affected & VW isn't real sure which cars have the dodgy ECUs.

[Darks RS]

As compared to the DSG fiasco????? From news breaking to now VAG has been quite quick...

I wouldn't describe stalling and telling lies to the government for 12months beforehand as "taking ownership immediately".

To the OP: AFAIK, there is no recall yet. To do a recall you need a fix. You also need to know precisely which vehicles are affected & VW is real sure which cars have the dodgy ECUs.

[brad]

As compared to the DSG fiasco????? From news breaking to now VAG has been quite quick...

VW have been stalling the US government authorities for at least 12 months. The only reason they have moved "quickly" since the news broke was they'd had time to prepare.

[Steve28]

If they do reprogram the ECU to meet the emission standards that customers "expected" the cars to meet, does that mean if it results in less power that customers can demand the cars be programmed or modified to produce the power they based their purchase on?


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[Darks RS]

I won't take mine in... I want more power not less.... Car now has a name though... Stinky Pete

If they do reprogram the ECU to meet the emission standards that customers "expected" the cars to meet, does that mean if it results in less power that customers can demand the cars be programmed or modified to produce the power they based their purchase on?


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[Carsten]

I won't take mine in... I want more power not less.... Car now has a name though... Stinky Pete

There is no emission testing anywhere in Australia - so we don't have to worry about passing any test, ever. If and when Volkswagen offer a fix, I would be very careful about what is being gained (lower NOx) and what is lost (lower mileage, engine longevity?).

That said, my Passat had its 15,000k service yesterday so I've now got a year to consider my options.

There is a potential class action website where people can register their interest - I have.

[Carsten]

I wouldn't describe stalling and telling lies to the government for 12months beforehand as "taking ownership immediately".

To the OP: AFAIK, there is no recall yet. To do a recall you need a fix. You also need to know precisely which vehicles are affected & VW isn't real sure which cars have the dodgy ECUs.

Ha ha. VW could search their database and know which engines have the defeat software, and where they were shipped. The current 'we don't know' is just stalling while they come up with a position or fix.