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Thread: Queensland Speed Limit Review - Have your say

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    Queensland Speed Limit Review - Have your say

    Funny how things change back in the day speed limit on most highways was 130kph. The roads were single lane rubbish and the cars were not as safe as today's
    Now that the roads are dual carriage way and safety has increased in vehicles ten fold all speed limits have dropped. No sense at all.

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    Yeah it really grinds my gears. I think the reason is because everyone has discarded the old saying of "correlation doesn't equal causation" and instead they've gotten lazy and just thought speed kills, rather than looking deeper into the causation.

    Otherwise known as "dumbing it down for the people".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobes_WIR35 View Post
    I miss driving in Europe. Courteous drivers who actually know how to drive, and road rules that don't treat everyone like they're retarded.
    But everyone IS retarded. That's the problem. Even the ones who think they aren't, are. We all think we're pretty good drivers. We're not. All anyone has to do is keep left. That's it.

    All the way left. Not left of right. Not centre. LEFT. As far left as you can go. In the trees if you have to.

    Not overtaking? Left
    Gonna be slow up a hill? Left
    Just made a right turn? Left
    LEFT LEFT LEFT.

    Keep the **** left. And get out of my way.

    Now...I've completed my surveys for several GC roads whose speed limits are far too low. Fingers crossed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Hawk View Post
    Was it the M2 that was "upgraded" from 110 to 100 after being redone?? (in NSW)
    Before the widening, the M2 was a maximum of 100 km/h. After the widening, it is still 100 km/h.

    What is odd about the M2 is that where the M7 ends, it is 100 km/h, but then as the M2 starts, it drops to 90 km/h, before resuming 100 km/h. About the only reason I can find is that short stretch of 90 km/h has bus stops in the emergency lane along it, speaking of which, they are absurd. There was almost a major multi-vehicle accident when on that stretch, a bus made a stop and promptly put its flashing lights on. This means you have to slow to 40 km/h! One driver decided to drop anchor and almost wore a number of cars following him!

    On speed limits, there is always a downside to every upside. The biggest downside is that merely upgrading the speed is not possible on the majority of existing roads because curves and road profiling are not set for higher speeds. The other is that the energy that has to be dissipated in a crash goes up by the square of the increase in speed. We have uncontrolled roads that pass as motorways where wildlife can cross at will. The concentration level goes up tremendously, and this has the effect of increasing fatigue.

    Just because a road has a limit of 110 km/h does not mean that it can be increased. There is a deadly stretch of the Hume Hwy just "south" of Goulburn. It is 110 km/h, and has been from the outskirts of Melbourne, but then shortly after the Federal Hwy joins it, there are series of curves that have advisories of 90 and 95 km/h. Many who have driven it for the first time don't believe it and keep at the 110 km/h limit, only to get caught out. There are many, many more such places on our road network that need to be addressed long before maximum speed limits are changed. The limit may be increased, but these advisories will not, and it comes down to the change in speed required.

    What we need are fewer changes in speed limit changes and a more consistent set of limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wai View Post
    ...The concentration level goes up tremendously, and this has the effect of increasing fatigue...
    Which contributes more to fatigue: paying attention or boredom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machine View Post
    Which contributes more to fatigue: paying attention or boredom?
    There is a PhD in that if anyone wants to undertake it.
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