Proximity Keys

[ian]

I had an interesting discussion with a master. Lock. Smith. About cutting a spare key. For my Tiguan I only need a blade cut. So I can carry it in my wallet. He asked me if my car was one with the proximinity. Keys. I told him no He went on to tell me how easy they were to reposse he then show me the code breakers he had which could open any car. But he said the ones with steering locks were a lot harder to reposse where as once you cracked the I mobilizer and opened the door all he had to do was. Push the start button.

[brad]

There was a fair bit of publicity in the newspapers not long back & a couple of threads on the forum.

It isn't a code breaker, more like a signal booster. Keep your keys in a tin can. It will act as a faraday cage and block the signal

[ian]

The. Lock smith does repo work for finance. Company's He does not need your key. I suppose it's like those after market. Remotes for your TV / dvd. They just scroll the signal being sent. From the car and lock onto it. He said he could open any. Car. And drive away.

[brad]

fair enough.

[Sunny43.5]

Don't you just love modern technology some genius comes up with a supposed great idea only to find someone smarter can defeat it so easily . I personally hate the bloody things with a vengeance we have been putting a key in our ignition and turning it to start for the last hundred years and now someone wants to make us get in with a remote and press a button to start . Same number of actions I think because at least when you stop you turn of with key and grab it and go . I have lost track of how many times I have gotten out of a car only to have the bloody thing start honking the damn horn because the remote is left inside DUMB . My first car wasa Morris minor and it had apush button start so most of this technology is nothing too new . {OH and no I don't have a car with smart remote these experiences are with customers cars } Bring back the KEY . keep it simple .

[ian]

Yes my first car was an Austin. A40 Devin. Heater demister. Sunroof. Am radio. Yes it had a key to turn on the ignition and a button to engage the starter motor. Not. Keyless. Which can be over ridden. With some bode with a rolling code breaker and steal or reposse your car with ease.

[brad]

If someone wants to take your car they will.

I think it somewhat stupid of the locksmith to show off what he can do. One of my relatives is a locksmith and was assaulted earlier this year when he refused to break into a garage as he thought the people were a bit suspect. 1 week in hospital & 3 weeks off work.

[fillmore]

I have a friend who has this modern technology in a Mazda CX5. His wife got him to drop her to work one day. They both get in car and he drives her to work. On the way home he decides to fill up with fuel. Purchases fuel, goes to start car and then remembers that his proximity key is still at home. He has started the car on his wife's key, which was in her handbag, and dropped her off leaving him keyless. Had to catch a taxi home and back to get his key. Lesson learnt.

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[brad]

I have a friend who has this modern technology in a Mazda CX5. His wife got him to drop her to work one day. They both get in car and he drives her to work. On the way home he decides to fill up with fuel. Purchases fuel, goes to start car and then remembers that his proximity key is still at home. He has started the car on his wife's key, which was in her handbag, and dropped her off leaving him keyless. Had to catch a taxi home and back to get his key. Lesson learnt.

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He mustn't pay attention to what it says on the dashboard. We've had three cars with proximity keys & the dashboard always flashes a continuous warning when the the key goes out of range.

[RolfGolf]

I can understand the convenience of a proximity key for getting into your car, but just the fact that people are getting stranded without a key when driving shows that it's a good idea to have something to start the car with - some kind of physical interaction - whether that's with a key, a card, or a chip embedded in your body ...