you wouldnt believe it but this afternoon i went into the eb store to ask about a deal with trading in a dead unit. he told me that to remove a stuck game that if you swithch it on at the back without pressing the power button on the front. now press and hold the eject button for like 10 secs , it actually released my cd. but strangly however it also kept the green light on , so i pressed the ps button on the controller and it booted up! , it appears that the orange light of doom doesnt only pertain to a over heating issue its just for a system failure in general. so needless to say its workign now!..........so i quickly traded it in for a slim. so now i have a working ps3 slim with 2 years waranty (hopefully sony have corrected the heating issue, the slim does have a differant cooling solution ) so now i can happily play ff13 and heavy rain wooooot!. thanks again all for the help. and pass on this work around to everyone else that gets the orange light of doom, it may just save a repair bill!