Golf GTI -v- Toyota FT86

[MACCAA]

(Golf R is FWD sending power rearwards over 40kph).

Cheers.
WJ

Really???That ain't how Haldex works actually.....

[WhiteJames]

I think that the FT86 is a bit more like the first setup I had on the old Golf MKV ... the softer Eibach Prokit/Koni FSD + H&R swaybars had the GTI leaning heavier on the outside front corner during cornering. Comfie ride, but front tyre sidewall would still be overworked. The FT86 is not nearly as bad with lower CoG. I fixed the heavier leaning front of the old GTI by adding extra spring & damping rate esp. at front with KW V3 set on full soft ... handled more akin to the Subaru BRZ despite obvious differences. Been watching this youtube.com video looking at lean angles of the Toyota FT86 compared to the Sirocco R. FT86 does move around a bit in the softer front end in relative terms. Sirocco R is the pick for handling in the VW stable and isn't too far behind the twins for sitting flat during cornering. See video:

Toyota GT 86 V/S BMW 120i, Mazda Roadster, VW Scirocco [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube

Cheers.
WJ

[Tobes_WIR35]

My point all along had been why compare two completely different cars? Can't we just be content with both being good cars with entirely different characteristics?

[SilvrFoxX]

Because the GTI doesn't run on Prius tyres

[Candyman]

My point all along had been why compare two completely different cars? Can't we just be content with both being good cars with entirely different characteristics?

The mysteries of WJ's mind amazes all of us.

Stay tuned (unless you own an 86, in which case there is no point being tuned)

[AdamD]

My point all along had been why compare two completely different cars? Can't we just be content with both being good cars with entirely different characteristics?

This!

Aside: No WJ- or anyone-else-bashing please guys. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

[Candyman]

He is a mystery, in a good way

[WhiteJames]

See Randy Pobst race car notes for Laguna Seca re: Motor Trend Best Driver's Car 2012. Read further below for all the notes on BRZ handling. Toyota FT86 didn't make cut.

See link with note & video:

Subaru BRZ, Lamborghini Aventador, Jaguar XKR-S: 2012 Best Driver

More on tyres later.

Cheers.
WJ

[nat225]

I always like WJ's posts, they provide useful information and knowledge in suspension and handling. I appreciate the time and efforts WJ makes here and on golfmk5 forum as early as in 2009:

WHITE JAMES: Suspension & Wheel Reviews - VW GTI Forum / VW Rabbit Forum / VW R32 Forum / VW Golf Forum - Golfmkv.com

I have not seen anyone else as passionate as him on suspension and handling in this forum / vwgolf.net.au / etc..

So, please respect people

[alebonau]

I dont understand the comparison either. they couldnt be more different cars. one is a practical 5 door hatchback which goes and handles reasonably well. other an impractical 2 door coupe without a boot to speak off but is very reasonably priced and goes and handles well but is a toyota !

but really WJ is entitled to compare any two cars he likes. heck with my golf gti lease coming up been looking at all sort of cars ...even cardigan wearing honda accord euro and mazda 6's hehe horses for courses as they say