Golf GTI -v- Toyota FT86

[SilvrFoxX]

More on tyres later.

Cheers.
WJ

Oh please no....

[MACCAA]

Oh please no....

+1......

[Mountainman]

Having owned a 2 litre Subaru Liberty I know what traits are and hope the RWD and drive keep everyone excited cause the performance will soon be an issue

Yes, a 2 litre, 121kw, 1400kg, 5 speed sedan that is slower than the 2.5 litre is hardly a reflection of what the BRZ is. It was a poor choice when purchasing a Liberty back then and the sales reflected it. And performance issues? I notice the 0-400m and 0-100km/h times "Wheels" have recorded with the 86 have been almost identical to what they have recorded with their tests of manual Mk6 GTI's.

[Tobes_WIR35]

The deal breaker for me was when I found out the STI version wasn't going to be turbo. I was excited about them up until that point. I love the fact that I spent under $2000 on my GTI on a tune and an air intake, for an extra 30% power, without affecting noise, driveability, fuel consumption or warranty. That flat out is not possible with an NA car.

I also love the fact that, for the 99% of the driving I do, it is a comfortable, quasi-luxury car with good manners, which will give a 6.2L HSV a decent touch up off the lights when I'm feeling boy racerish

[SilvrFoxX]

Yes, a 2 litre, 121kw, 1400kg, 5 speed sedan that is slower than the 2.5 litre is hardly a reflection of what the BRZ is. It was a poor choice when purchasing a Liberty back then and the sales reflected it. And performance issues? I notice the 0-400m and 0-100km/h times "Wheels" have recorded with the 86 have been almost identical to what they have recorded with their tests of manual Mk6 GTI's.

heh.. Wheel s have no credibility after last years COTY and the audacity to claim the twins are better than a Boxter..

[Klink1313]

.........It was a poor choice when purchasing a Liberty back then and the sales reflected it........

Silverfox has been told off ...hehe... and I thought Foxes were cunning and clever...
[Another valued added post from the Colonel]

[SilvrFoxX]

Silverfox has been told off ...hehe... and I thought Foxes were cunning and clever...
[Another valued added post from the Colonel]

It was a Gen 4 I feel sorry for those that bought a Gen 5.. was a great car if you didn't have high expectations of performance..

[Tobes_WIR35]

heh.. Wheel s have no credibility after last years COTY and the audacity to claim the twins are better than a Boxter..

Controversy sells magazines I guess. If the front cover says that a $40k car is better than a $100k car, then more average Joe's will buy the magazine.

[GolfVI]

This is a VW forum so of course you guys are going to protect the cars you drive.. I own a Mk6 Golf... I have driven plenty of GTI's.. they are great cars, no doubt..

How is it not fair to compare an 86GTS with a 3 door GTI? They have fairly equal performance, both 2 doors, similar money... if you are so adoment that it shouldn't be compared with the GTI.. what car should the 86 be compared to?

I really believe you guys are over sensitive about your own cars.. it's like you guys are trying to snob the car with 'how dare they compare a Toyota with my GTI'... and even more offended when the critics say 86 is a better car.. like I keep saying, I am not saying the 86 is a better car than the GTI... but it's a worthy competitor... I had the opportunity to buy a White GOLF R for 38k... I paid more for my 86GTS... and I don't regret it at all : )

[Candyman]

I own four cars, only one is a VW

Used to own a GTI but never will again unless they go AWD

I'm a harsh critic of VW, incl my R

I don't care what gets compared to what but comparing a turbo FWD euro 5 door to a NA RWD Jap 2 door is a little strange but whatever floats your boat

Almost all on here tune their GTIs which puts them well ahead of the 86 in terms of power and usable torque

I personally think the 86 looks far sexier than the GTI and my R but I didn't buy my R based on its looks.

Whatever floats your boat

However, the constant boring monologue from one poster gets tedious. Sure, I don't have to read it and I have now used the Ignore function to make that happen automatically