Golf GTI -v- Toyota FT86

I agree.

Guys the 86 is a brand new vehicle segment in itself (mainly do to its price). Therefore it is pointless comparing it to anything else. There are at least two other threads like this on this forum the main one being in the general discussion thread where they have been compared to almost every car under $50K over and over.

If you want one so bad simply buy one and then go and join a Subaru or Toyota forum. And maybe one day I'll have the pleasure of embarrassing you around Lakeside or QR like I do to cars that cost twice as much as the 86. The only thing that matters is you love the car you choose to purchase!

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Originally Posted by elephino

Considering the quite ordinary field last year? Yes. This year's is going to be a lot harder to end up with the winner, and I don't believe the 86/BRZ is going to be as easy a win as you're suggesting (not saying it can't win, but I'm less certain than you).

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Given the articles they have written on the subject they would look silly otherwise.. hang on .. silliness from Wheels well past that concern

Having driven the Sirocco R and twins, must say that the Sirocco R is not that far behind the twins for driver engagement ... definitely go for the manual to limit turbo lag. Sirocco did score one 1st place in Motor Mag BFYB and placed consistently high. The Megane RS265 would be more fun is the slower stuff with proper LSD.

Valid point on purchasing one of the twins. In the past I had to wait 6 mths for both MKV and MK6 Golf GTI's. Not prepared to wait anyone, esp. locking into a binding contract being at the mercy of the dealer. Regardless of purchasing a Volkswagen, or one of the twins, I am now inclined to wait until the dealer has stock or at the very least, something on the boat closer to our shores. In this respect, the Toyota FT86 could the pick based on greater availability.

Speaking of waiting times, the Mark 7 Golf is not very far away indeed. I expect to see the MK7 Golf GTI and Golf R released much sooner in the Mark 7 version. Here someting I gleaned from another site that supports that assertion:

Caught Testing: 2014 Volkswagen Golf R - Article - RoadandTrack.com

Cheers.
WJ

Hi All. I've just stumbled onto this thread and thought I might have something to contribute. I have no barrow to push. I'm not trying to pick a fight. But I do have:

~2,000km experience in a Golf GTI DSG MkV (on Tassie roads).
~3,500km experience in a Toyota 86 GTS AT (on NSW roads).
Oh...and one my fave short-drives ever in an R32 MkV (Mt Keira).

I have included my 86 ownership thoughts in a thread elsewhere. I understand it's a long read, but I do get around to making a few coarse comparisons between the 86 and the GTI, in case you have the patience.

Otherwise, please feel free to ask me any questions here.

You will find the comparison has been well and truly exhausted

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Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake

I have included my 86 ownership thoughts in a thread elsewhere. I understand it's a long read, but I do get around to making a few coarse comparisons between the 86 and the GTI, in case you have the patience.

Otherwise, please feel free to ask me any questions here.

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Thanks for providing honest and unbiased feedback, nice to read :)

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Originally Posted by Candyman

I can still remember the anguished look on the face of the 86 driver in my rear view mirror up the gorge :)

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Enjoyed it so much you had to mention it again eh?

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Originally Posted by agotatsuya

Thanks for providing honest and unbiased feedback, nice to read :)

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He owns one

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Enjoyed it so much you had to mention it again eh?

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Repetition seems to be the point of this thread.

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Originally Posted by Candyman

He owns one

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I saw that.

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Originally Posted by Candyman

Repetition seems to be the point of this thread.

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You seem particularly proud of your efforts.
I'm certainly impressed. I'm glad you felt the need to mention your feat twice, I may have missed the first mention.

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Originally Posted by agotatsuya

You seem particularly proud of your efforts.
I'm certainly impressed. I'm glad you felt the need to mention your feat twice, I may have missed the first mention.

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No pride at all but I value your sarcasm

I was surprised on what is a drivers road (the Galston) that the drivers car fell back so quickly

14.9 seconds for the 1/4 mile is almost as fast as a Manual Trans Golf R!
Proof is in the pudding ...

World's Greatest Drag Race 2! - YouTube

Cheers.
WJ