DSG woes in The Age

[mythik]

I thank you OzVwCrap for providing your account on this forum, and for the frank discussion.

I'm glad these issues have hit the media, it assists those who've been treated unfairly, and with downright contempt, from both the dealer and VWA to finally get the minimum acknowledgement we've wanted all along.

Some VW cars do have serious issues - which can lead to safety issues - and VWA and their owners have known this for a long time. I realise this doesn't go down too well on an enthusiast's forum, but them be the facts.

I 9000% agree with you stickshift3000. Thank you OzVWCrap for providing us with pages and pages of carefully thought out analysis and structured planning for our collective movement forward when discussing this serious issue properly with VW to really get our issues really heard and our problems resolved.

[99_FGT]

Wrong again grandpa. You are being treated in this way because you are incapable of being objective and have absolutely no sympathy for the vast majority of VGA car owners who have never had a problem, unlikely to have a problem and are happy with their cars. You posts have been completely off topic, one sided and with clear intent to suggest that every VW is a potential death trap. Imagine how many previously happy VGA car owners are now running around scared about their cars and resale without one shred of evidence that there are many systemic problems across the VGA models! You and the media have contributed to that and VWA, Audi and Skoda are still in the same position as they were before all this. No recall of anything!

With the exception of the somewhat hypocritcal name calling, I agree with you.
OzVW is being treated like that because in 46 pages he has added little to the discussion, and attacks anyone who might question him or his intentions, let alone actually consider their point of view.
The tragic death of Ms Ryan is being used as a call to arms for all people who have ever (or never) had a problem with VW or VWA, by people trying to push their own agenda. I for one think that this is a bottom feeding act, and if you want to act that way then expect to be treated that way.
Al..

[cmrtig]

With the exception of the somewhat hypocritcal name calling, I agree with you.
OzVW is being treated like that because in 46 pages he has added little to the discussion, and attacks anyone who might question him or his intentions, let alone actually consider their point of view.
The tragic death of Ms Ryan is being used as a call to arms for all people who have ever (or never) had a problem with VW or VWA, by people trying to push their own agenda. I for one think that this is a bottom feeding act, and if you want to act that way then expect to be treated that way.
Al..

Mate a little off topic but I just realized I also have a TRc with the exact same setup as you, plus a blur XCc and a Tallboy carbon!

[Hail22]

So it seems now one judge of World Car of the Year feels he is partly responsible to blame and was slightly aware of the problems...

No Cookies | The Courier-Mail

This is when the cream slowly comes to the surface, we'll see if any other judge's or possibly journalists had prior knowledge yet "may" of decided to pass on the buck about VW's problems.

[cmrtig]

So it seems now one judge of World Car of the Year feels he is partly responsible to blame and was slightly aware of the problems...

No Cookies | The Courier-Mail

This is when the cream slowly comes to the surface, we'll see if any other judge's or possibly journalists had prior knowledge yet "may" of decided to pass on the buck about VW's problems.

From one extreme to the other and he is basically saying not to buy a second hand VW out of warranty. Oh crap there goes the resale even more, unless VWA increase warranty to 5-10 years which is unlikely. Proves my point from before we have all lost now and those responsible have lost nothing and some actually come out looking like heroes.

[sVWatt]

“Yes, we have issues, we acknowledge there are issues,” White told Drive. “We want to get to every customer."

Volkswagen breaks silence, but still no recalls

[Hail22]

“Yes, we have issues, we acknowledge there are issues,” White told Drive. “We want to get to every customer."

Volkswagen breaks silence, but still no recalls

That sounds something like what Cheverolet, Ford and Chrysler said to the federal commission during the GFC xD

"We want to get to every customer" what it means from a PR/HR perspective "Its up to our consumers to contact us first" hence the public release its not to re-assure consumers its to say to consumers...we won't be calling you however we've allowed the option for you to contact us.

[Transporter]

It looks like the ball is rolling and the actions were taken, and IMO every civilised person would seat back and wait for the outcome. With regards to media involvement - these who just pour the oil into the fire, make sure you don't overcook it, you could get burned.

As for me from now on I wouldn't want to respond in this thread that's very one sided.

[mythik]

[Diesel_vert]

But, but ... from the new article

Mr Harding said customers should not be paying Volkswagen for parts when there were ''inherent problems with the vehicles''. He said these issues affected only ''a very low percentage'' of the 20,000-odd cars Volkswagen sold in Australia each year, and only two types of DSG transmissions - the DQ200 and DQ250 - seem to be affected. The customer makes a complaint but is sent away and told this is normal. That's where I don't agree with Volkswagen.''

I didn't say the DQ250 wasn't trouble-free (and it isn't), just that it's not subject to the same recall currently under way for the DQ200 in other countries.

Some practical advice: due to the amount of media scrutiny on VW at the moment, I'd suggest you contact head office to confirm if your car is covered by the 5 year / 150 000 km transmission warranty, and if so, go to your nearest dealer and insist that your car suffers from the same symptoms (false neutral, etc). Who knows, you may well end up with a free replacement mechatronics unit.

Thanks for the advice but no, I won't sell it because my philosophy with cars is to own them at least 10 years to amortize costs. If I can baby this one along for another 6 years, I'll consider the episode closed.

But I regret buying this car, and won't buy another VW (this from a long-time VW fan who has owned numerous VWs).

I emphasise with you and I'm sure none of us would want to be in your situation - but after all this, you're still willing to drive the vehicle for another six years?

I understand the financial argument, but sometimes, I think you have to cut your losses - a Volkswagen Golf TDI is not worth this much heartache.

What price on sanity and piece-of-mind?

From one extreme to the other and he is basically saying not to buy a second hand VW out of warranty.

I wonder if that comes as a revelation to some people.

I've always known (and so have many others who bother to do their research) that in a general sense, buying any second hand carries some risk - and especially so when it comes to any European car.

I was absolutely gobsmacked when someone in an article claimed that VW's have a great reputation amongst used-car buyers... lol, I presume he was talking about those who didn't do their research.

Don't get me wrong - I love my Euros, but I also love getting my hands dirty - so I'm certainly under no illusion what owning one might entail, and I certainly wouldn't personally recommend any second-hand European car to family and friends who have absolutely no technical interest in cars.