DSG woes in The Age

[RoknRob]

I agree with that. When the accident happens, people often reach for the lies to shift the blame, and since they can't blame the road - the one always have to drive to conditions, that's the law, right? So, only what is left to blame is the other party or the car.

Yes, the coroner's case should be considered a separate issue.

But, unfortunately for VW, it has highlighted the fact that there are lots more people than we thought with potentially dangerous cars.

VW is in a difficult position now, since if they were to implement a recall, it might be perceived as an admission of guilt - if not by the coroner, then definitely by the lawyers!

Which explains their strategy now. "Feel free to come on in for an inspection, if you want".

The onus, back on the consumer....

[cmrtig]

What the hell is your problem? Work for VW?

No but I think you work for Toyota. Your question is irrelevant and has been answered about 100 times. I believe your are intent on damaging the resale of VWs because you are a selfish and angry old man!

[mythik]

Mods I think it is time to step in! This is beyond a joke!!!!

maybe not. I see the aforementioned number 2 (quite apt) as a root cause. irrespective of any reason for a car to die. if you panic and do something retarded, results may vary.

not excusing the issue. VW need to fix the DSG 7 speeds by replacing them with 6 speed wet clutch variants. isn't that what this thread is about!?

[tonymy01]

Can anyone who is a mechanic or highly knowledgeable confirm this? Based on my experience with manuals, many years ago, the braking effect would be very large.

If you were in first or second gear, yes, but not in top gear. As was already said, when you take your foot off the accelerator in a manual modern car, fuel and spark are completely shut off, exactly the same thing as if the engine died. Just look at the fuel consumption (instantaneous) when coasting, it goes to 0. In top gear, even 5th or fourth, the engine is barely any load on the drive train (or look at it the other way, the drive train gearing is so tall it is rapidly turning the engine). Result= gradual coast.
Your speculations are becoming ludicrous now.

Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

[golfandtiguan]

• Car dies/shuts down
• Driver hits brakes in panic
• Car slows rapidly until it 'seizes' and 'violently halts' as described above.

Respectfully - why hit the brakes? To stop the car, presumably.

What happened? Car stopped! Nett result = behaved as expected and desired.
As the car started to 'stall', you hit the clutch (like coming to the lights), and there's no violent stop.

And yes, back on topic - I hope VW can sort out this massive issue. I'm hoping once they have a genuine (reliable) fix, the cars will be recalled.

[muli]

No but I think you work for Toyota. Your question is irrelevant and has been answered about 100 times. I believe your are intent on damaging the resale of VWs because you are a selfish and angry old man!

Did Toyota beat around the bush with recalls?

[golfandtiguan]

Um... if you slow down in a manual car and don't shift down, you get a violent shudder. Seizing up is not far off.

Pedal on the left fixes that! (does not need engine power to operate)

[cmrtig]

[*]I own a VW and do not want resale values damaged.[/list]

I must be missing something then. There is so much negative speculation in your posts that it is not funny. You seem to be acting as a coroner. Leave it alone and stick to the topic. When the coroner's report comes out start a new thread!

[Transporter]

Um... if you slow down in a manual car and don't shift down, you get a violent shudder. Seizing up is not far off.

I see, you're getting quite a knowledgeable man. Tell us more.

[mythik]

OzVWCrap works for Fairfax Media. Just sayin'