DSG woes in The Age

[muli]

Sure there is some rambling but there is a few good points that VAG could learn from

Don't Bite the Hand That Feeds You

[Foos]

Hmm. I've had 1 false neutral in my ' dsg 11 gti. Free revving when should gave been in 3rd. Slapped it back into manual and dropped a gear and it reengaged. It wasn't pleasant though as it happened going through a round about. Hasn't happened in a year tho.

[VWDSGissue]

This is really getting ridiculous and becoming more of a media witch hunt. I mean VW already gave an indication that they might announce a recall next week. I don't see any point for Fairfax to publish another article bashing VW again.

Don't they think about VW owners who have not encountered problems but will lose thousands of dollars of resale value when they sell their car?

Faults that trashed a reputation

And another one

A lot of ground to make up for reluctant VW

I am with Fairfax on this one. VW have been dragging their heels. They might respond this week, hopefully with a full recall for all affected VW owners. I am experiencing the shuddering issue in my 2008 Passat with the 6 Speed DSG. I want VW to pay for the fix. I have more hope than I had two weeks ago.

I know my resale value is going to be lower. At least I will be able to sell it, once they fix the issue. I do not blame Fairfax, I blame VW. They should not sell poor quality vehicles, they should admit to their faults, they should repair the issues for free.

A class action against VW, by the owners who have not had issues, might be possible.

I will be selling my car as soon as I can. My Subaru Outback has done 244,000Kms. Its most expensive repair was cheaper than my VW's last standard service (75,000Kms, not even the timing belt). I am highlighting the difference in reliability. The VW needs a new $3,500 Mechatronics unit, apparently.

[alexaescht]

Mum just forwarded me the email. I've attached it for anyone who wants to read it:

[logger]

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There are fundamental issues with the DSG boxes' design ...

The DSGs have issues, however in regard to

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1. anywhere you bath sensitive electronics (mechantronics) in hot gearbox oil, you are bound to have failures,
2. the tendancy of the DSGs to ride the clutch to gain "economy" with always being in a higher gear than what it really should be will wear out the clutch packs earlier than expected...

Both wrong ....

1. The 7 Speed gearbox mechatronic unit, which is the most effected of the two main DSGs, contains no gearbox oil. 6 speed does though.
2. That's pure speculation. I could also speculate that adding a second clutch would double the combined clutch life, when clearly it does not. The cars characteristic of running taller gears is by design and does not mean it has a tendency to "ride" the clutch. I have seen no clear evidence off the taller gear regime being the cause of the DSG7 clutch failures.

[chopper]

Hmm. I've had 1 false neutral in my ' dsg 11 gti. Free revving when should gave been in 3rd. Slapped it back into manual and dropped a gear and it reengaged. It wasn't pleasant though as it happened going through a round about. Hasn't happened in a year tho.

I had EXACTLY the same experience... 2011 GTI DSG, false neutral (MFD showed D3) while trying to accelerate out of a roundabout! All the talk seems to be around the 7 speed box... but it seems the 6 speed box is just as susceptible!

To be fair... it has only happened once...

[Eaglehawk]

Mum just forwarded me the email. I've attached it for anyone who wants to read it:

This is old news...

Message from Managing Director John White

[alexaescht]

This is old news...

Message from Managing Director John White

I know, but the email was only sent out today.

[alexaescht]

The DSGs have issues, however in regard to

Both wrong ....

1. The 7 Speed gearbox mechatronic unit, which is the most effected of the two main DSGs, contains no gearbox oil. 6 speed does though.
2. That's pure speculation. I could also speculate that adding a second clutch would double the combined clutch life, when clearly it does not. The cars characteristic of running taller gears is by design and does not mean it has a tendency to "ride" the clutch. I have seen no clear evidence off the taller gear regime being the cause of the DSG7 clutch failures.

Actually, the 7 speed DSG does have gearbox oil, it's just that the clutches aren't bathed in it, only the actual gearing and mechatronics are. Just like a manual gearbox has a dry clutch, but still requires gearbox oil.

[brad]

I know, but the email was only sent out today.

Even the facts email are stretching the truth.

There were no VWs sold in Australia until 1954.

There were no passenger vehicles sold in Australia for a period of about 7 years in the '80s (?) and only Transporters were sold in volumes as low as 45/pa