Dieselgate Scandal

[jets]

Earlier in this thread,[#2] I inserted my VIN No. in the link provided by VW saying our Tiguan wasn't affected. Today I received a letter from VW saying our VW is affected. I rang VW in response to their letter & was told, after I gave the guy my VIN No., that it is affected.
Now here's the point. While 'is affected by software that causes discrepancies in the values for oxides of nitrogen [NOx] during laboratory testing", the emissions of our car complies with the current standards in Aust. & the recall is a voluntary one. He also said that there are diesel vehicles sold in Aust. [from other manufacturers] with higher emissions than those from VW engines.
I suggested to him that it's time for VW to be proactive & to tell it as it is rather than let the Media & some on here carry on with all the hype.

[Ryeman]

Earlier in this thread,[#2] I inserted my VIN No. in the link provided by VW saying our Tiguan wasn't affected. Today I received a letter from VW saying our VW is affected. I rang VW in response to their letter & was told, after I gave the guy my VIN No., that it is affected.
Now here's the point. While 'is affected by software that causes discrepancies in the values for oxides of nitrogen [NOx] during laboratory testing", the emissions of our car complies with the current standards in Aust. & the recall is a voluntary one. He also said that there are diesel vehicles sold in Aust. [from other manufacturers] with higher emissions than those from VW engines.
I suggested to him that it's time for VW to be proactive & to tell it as it is rather than let the Media & some on here carry on with all the hype.

Others with "higher emissions than those from VW engines"?
Like for like? or are they referring to trucks?
I probably won't have my EGR valve's life expectancy reduced by submitting to their 'fix' unless I'm intending to trade out.....someone else can deal with the consequences......we all know VW haven't any confidence in their diesel ancillaries long term.
It wouldn't be such an issue if the EGR was accessible and serviceable but I object to putting $5000 aside for when it fails, as it will under the new requirement.

[jets]

There's a small article in todays Advertiser [main daily in Adelaide] that says the government has allowed Holden to have an extension in time to comply for some models that will not comply with EURO 5 that will be introduced in Aust. in November '16.

[Bayman]

It wouldn't be such an issue if the EGR was accessible and serviceable but I object to putting $5000 aside for when it fails, as it will under the new requirement.

Mine failed at 100,000kms left me dead with battery light on, stranded as it got stuck open. Cost $2700 from memory but extended warranty covered the cost

So what's this talk on this blog about any recall being voluntary and vehicle meeting the then current EURO 4 standard. If this was the case, just remove the default software for AUST market only for those vehicles built whilst we had Euro 4.

Seems to me this will run on for some time unless ACCC hit them harder than currently. Aust will lag as usual.A friend with a Q5 was told fix by November.............maybe 2016?

[arcadelt]

So what's this talk on this blog about any recall being voluntary and vehicle meeting the then current EURO 4 standard. If this was the case, just remove the default software for AUST market only for those vehicles built whilst we had Euro 4.

Not Euro 4, but Euro 5 that is the issue.

[Amalgam]

This is what Volkswagen thinks of non US Customers

Dieselgate: VW compensation backfires – Car Reviews, News & Advice - CarPoint Australia

Admitting Volkswagen had received backlash from both European and American customers, he said the company was instead tailoring a different style of compensation for Europeans.

“The American customers were buying into a niche technology, that was specifically advertised as a ‘clean diesel’, but Europeans bought a mainstream technology,” he justified.

“For the European customers, they will be less inconvenienced because their recall solutions are almost ready and their cars will be repaired faster.

I am beginning lose my humour with the disingenuous weasel word PR spin that VW is coming out with. Lets face it, the Americans have much tougher Lemon laws and the yanks are several orders of magnitude more litigious than we are. Volkswagen AG and VW Au are really trying hard to push me away. Sad, because they build great cars

VW's US 'goodwill' package won't be offered here – Car Reviews, News & Advice - CarPoint Australia

Customers affected by Volkswagen's 'dieselgate' scandal to be offered $US1000 in credit in North America, but not Australia

[Amalgam]

Dieselgate: Audi, Porsche and VW to fix V6s – Car Reviews, News & Advice - CarPoint Australia


Likely to be the same fix applied to Australian VW, Audi and Skoda vehicles when a local recall commences early next year, the 2.0-litre TDI modification involves only a software update, while the 1.6-litre TDI fix includes a new “flow transformer” grille on the air-filter, a new mass air flow sensor and software changes that will cost the company around €10 a car.

The 1.6-litre repair will take up to an hour and the 2.0-litre work will require less than half an hour of labour, said VW, which will begin recalling the vehicles in Europe from January.

In both cases, Volkswagen says its target is "no adverse effects on fuel consumption and performance".


I just don't buy this.

A fix as simple as a ECU software update for the 2.0 and the addition of a AUD15 "flow transformer" for the 1.6, and VAG played russian roulette with AUD15 BILLION.

[Dartiguan]

Neither do I. A piece of mesh to solve the problem in the 1.6 engine and more software fiddling with the 2 litre. They must have laboured long and hard for this PR solution. I think the whole EGR solution to diesel emissions is the problem and it cannot be fixed, it was flawed engineering to start with and could not match the longevity of the diesel engine without extremely expensive ongoing maintenance costs. (Just spent $2000 on an EGR cooler that failed, so am living the dream so to speak). As a small part of the VW world market we will be sidelined and ignored. Unfortunately, the only solution for the individual customer is to wear it or move on. I like the car (Tiguan TDI) but have been dismayed by my experiences with it which have not matched my expectations of a new car and VW as an organisation.

[Transporter]

Neither do I. A piece of mesh to solve the problem in the 1.6 engine and more software fiddling with the 2 litre. They must have laboured long and hard for this PR solution. I think the whole EGR solution to diesel emissions is the problem and it cannot be fixed, it was flawed engineering to start with and could not match the longevity of the diesel engine without extremely expensive ongoing maintenance costs. (Just spent $2000 on an EGR cooler that failed, so am living the dream so to speak). As a small part of the VW world market we will be sidelined and ignored. Unfortunately, the only solution for the individual customer is to wear it or move on. I like the car (Tiguan TDI) but have been dismayed by my experiences with it which have not matched my expectations of a new car and VW as an organisation.

I'm sorry to hear that you're not happy with your Tiguan. We have 2 TDI Tiguans in family 2010 and 2013 and they're the best cars we ever owned, not a single fault. Happy days.