Aurion quicker than a GTI, really?

[zoomda]

So I was reading through the Showroom section of Wheels magazine trying to decide which car I'd like next.

Inspecting the 0-100km times I noticed that the Aurion was quicker than a Golf GTI? Is that true? I recall driving an Aurion a few years back that was a rental and I admit it was surprisingly quick. But it's really just a V6 camry.

I also read that the Ralliart Lancer is quicker than the GTI as well which was also a surprise. Less so though I'll admit

Maybe I've just spent too much time in VW land and these forums and I've lost track of the real world.

[Lucas_R]

Stock GTI's (and R's for that matter) are actually pretty slow as a standard car.

I remember when i test drove an R before buying one i was pretty unimpressed with the performance out of the box. Luckily a tune and a few goodies changes that.

[Creampuff]

speed is not everything, quality goes a long way....and Japanese doesnt compare to Euro.

[GTI Jimmy]

I'm not surprised by that, I felt my gti was significantly slower than some of the cars I test drove prior to getting the dub. But as its been said, it's not all about speed, the gti is a better all round package IMO.

[AdamD]

As has been mentioned, the GTI's no gun. However, I also wouldn't trust Wheels magazine (or a number of the other mainstream car mags) to be able to produce a decent acceleration time, and VW's own figures - like many German marques - are conservative. IIRC Motor's managed a 6.1 recently, but ~6.5 is a decent estimate for a DSG.

[Transporter]

Yes, it's not how fast you go, but how do you go fast.

[LunchboxVRS]

As has been mentioned, the GTI's no gun. However, I also wouldn't trust Wheels magazine (or a number of the other mainstream car mags) to be able to produce a decent acceleration time, and VW's own figures - like many German marques - are conservative. IIRC Motor's managed a 6.1 recently, but ~6.5 is a decent estimate for a DSG.

Adams bang on. there well over what's actually doable. Polo GTI 0-100 is 6.9 according to vw but I've managed a high 6.6 using the same measuring equipment the magazines use. Took about 10 attempts to get the launch right and with enough of a break in between for it to cool back down. But you can't retry on the street if you stuff it.

[Diesel_vert]

The Golf R (131 kW/tonne) and Aurion (129 kW/tonne) have near identical power-to-weight ratios.

I suppose it isn't that surprising, considering it has a 200 kW 3.5 litre V6 to work with.

In contrast, the GTI produces 111 kW/tonne, so I wouldn't get into a traffic-light drag race with one if you could help it.

[Tobes_WIR35]

Nothing will change the fact that the Aurion is one of the most hideous looking land barges on the market today though...

[zoomda]

The figures in Wheels were their "as tested" figures so not the manufacturer claims. 4 pots vs 6 makes the difference in this comparison but it's the perception that surprised me. I guess the cops drive Sportivo's around for a reason. Cheap performance without stepping up to an SS/XR6T.

Even the R isn't overly quick and I've read that the Scirocco is quicker due to less weight but Wheels own figures don't back that up.

Perhaps I'm expecting too much. I just don't like the fact that a "hot" hatch is slower than a car that is related to a Camry. It's bad enough that stock Falcadores can be quicker, depending on the model.

Mercedes have the answer with A45 but sheesh the price goes with it!