kw coilovers.......why

[Spyda]

You wouldn't know a cunning plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord singing "Cunning plans are here again".

Ahh Blackadder, is there anything he can't do?

HAHA "The Black vegitable" is a gun. If you have 2 beans and you add another bean, what do you get?.................... uhhhh some beans.

The urine quote was from Dodgeball though.

Just to stay on topic, I want coilovers.

[The_Hawk]

The urine quote was from Dodgeball though.

Just to stay on topic, I want coilovers.

Thats right, now that you say that I remember

Ahhh... and my coilovers are still "in transit"...

[shami]

Damn i just found this thread!

I have KW V2's and i love the ride and the adjustability. Theres no sales hype either. Have you ever seen a KW ad on TV?? This is all word of mouth. Big deal if we all like KW. Its opinion. I heard good things about KW from Fuzion and Al Walker. I did my research and bout them. Told Neil how good they are, now hes running the. Our cars, our money... Another reason i bought them is the after sales support offered by Dragan. I highly recommend him. Always had time to answer my questions and even rang me up as i was fitting them to ask me how things were going. Its little things like that, that brings business.

Amen...my sentiments exactly

[Blitzen]

well omgmk4 you put it nicley mate its good to hear others opinions on the matter, I think it is a very interesting subject thanks for imput. for my mk4 im going to d as much reaserch as possible for the shockies/springs/coilovers what ever the brand i will embark which product gives maximum performance for the dollar, i guess peoples opinions do matter but at the same time you cant soley rely on it escpecialy for that kind of cash. to new golfers thinking about kw coilovers im not saying there crap or a waste but im advising that you take your time find out a product which suits you and your style race/track/street/safety peoples opinions matter! but dont get dragged in by the hype of a particular item, when very few golfers on this forum know the features of kw springs other than just lowering and raising ride height. all im saying is know your gear, know what you want!

Mate, at the end of the day, whatever brand of coil overs, or any product for your car for that matter that you have decided to buy, its your hard earned Iraq money that you are spending.

Don't rubbish something that you may not entirely know about. Who cares whether other Golfer may or may not know all the features of their own respective brands of coil overs. Its their money. Its just like the whole ECU flash debate. If you want it, buy it.

I have done my research on coil overs, but have decided on Eibach springs only(and yes, I did my research on them too).

You could put in a set of ASLAV front struts in your Golf, but be warned, they do bend easily

[The_Hawk]

Ahhh this thread... I forgot about this one.

My nice shiny new coilovers finally arrived:


and were installed:


They are fixed rate units, but at AU$950 landed, they are a bit of a bargain.

Handling has been much improved with the strut brace, control arm poly bushes and new heavy duty rubber top mounts for the coils.

Ride is a little stiff, but then I still need to do a side by side comparison with a set of KW V2's to see just how much difference there is. Reality is that the ride is about what I was expecting and if it were any softer it would simply bottom out everytime you hit a dip in the road.

In summary I have been very happy with my coil overs performance and price. Considering I have paid about about 65% less than what a set of KW V2's would have cost in Australia.

Since then I have been tlaking to someone else who is considering some coils and has come prices. Seems there are fixed rate Bilsteins available at about the $AU1,500 point, a "know brand name".

What is interesting is that Venom Motorsport in the UK, which is one of the very big parts places, sells lots of Supersport branded coilovers at a whopping 299 pounds or about AU$650. They are definately a entry level product there is no question about that, but the feedback I have heard is that they are very good. Sure they don't have the name and sure they don't have all the adjustments, but at the end of the day as long as they work.

Looking at the KW's from Venom and the prices look like this: V1's ~AU$1500, V2's ~AU$1900.

The old addage 'you get what you pay for' isn't always true. In lots of cases your paying for a sticker or a badge attached to the product your buying. While I don't have any hard evidence, I would love to have an indenpendant test done on the KW's and the Supersports to see just how much difference there is between them considering one if more than double the price of the other.

[fuzion]

nice info/write up on them!

you have to remember though, KW is in Australia so you have aussie based support nationwide and that alone is a big difference incase anything goes wrong! it comes down to quality/durability and the support thats given if you want a product to last regardless of brand you DO pay for what you get and we all know that!

FK's are also entry level and you can also get those quite cheap, but also saying that your able to get Weitecs V1's from about $1500 inc gst in Australia too which are much better then fks, much better then supersports and ARE from the KW Factory itself.

you should jump into steves vr6 sometime to see the comparison on ride, i think he has the v2s as well so least then you can compare it to yours. however it'd take a few weeks for yours to bed in and you'll also prob drop almost half an inch once it does so when you start scrubbing a bit in a month you'll know why lol

imo, i would sick to the brands with support here, H&R from TCCA, KW/Weitec from InMotive [Dragan] and Neuspeed if Ian from Rennenhaus can give you the support? (not sure if hes doing suspension sorry)

[The_Hawk]

It has been about a month since they were installed and yes they have settled a litte more, in fact that photo is a few weeks after they were first installed.

They will need to be wound up a few turns. While they are still fine for driving round there is one speed hump [that I drive over] they now bottom out on [which they didnt' when first installed].

I took the car round Wakefield last week and everything worked very well. Gotta say I am pretty happy.
As for support, yes, normally I'm the first person to say it better to not save a few $$ and know you have a propper Australian released product with the support to back it up. But then there is always a point where the savings are big enough to justify the risk.
Consider of all the people that have bought something locally for the support, how many have needed the support. The reality is if that number is high, then you should be asking why do all these people need support??

I do intend to go for a spin in Steve's car when I next get a chance. I think both our opinions of each others setup will be very interesting.

[Oneofthegreats]

My thought's

I can safely say that I've been in a number of different car's with various branded & big branded named coilover's & I'll say that these are at the top of my list.

KW, Bilstein, Koni & H&R, which are all on par with each other.

Superior build quality using high quality material's + long service life, ride comfort, adjustability & support.

There's an old saying "You only get what you pay for" & this fit's the bill.

[h100vw]

What is interesting is that Venom Motorsport in the UK, which is one of the very big parts places,

Funnily enough, Richard doesn't have a big place at all. Great what a big website and 2 page adverts can do for you credibility isn't it!!

His prices are excellent though.

Gavin

[The_Hawk]

Maybe I should phrase that as popular.