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    KW DDC Coilovers are coming out

    Hi Xciteu,

    No dilemmas anymore!
    We have just finished the development on the New KW DDC Coilovers that will integrate into VW Adaptive Chassis Control system. Testing it in Australia right now and first kits will be ETA October. So you can keep your VW DCC and get the added benefits of the KW Coilover Suspension. With the ability to change the complete feel/handling of the car, It's almost 3 suspensions in one.

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    Overview:
    Setup at the push of the original switch at the dashboard
    Choice between comfort, normal and sport
    Without additional fitting effort due to plug-and-play
    All advantages of a KW coilover suspension
    Customized solution for Golf VI, Passat 3C and Scirocco

    For the first time, the specialist for suspension solutions combines the best from two fields. With the new Dynamic Damping Control (DDC), KW has designed a new a coilover suspension, which uses the original 3-way button to adjust the damping. KW combines the individual height adjustability of the coilover suspension with the adaptive OEM dampening control. The driver can choose between three modes:

    “Comfort“ for bad road condition or just a relaxed ride. “Normal“ for sporty daily use as the best compromise between performance and ride comfort or “Sport“ for best handling and response.

    The development by the KW engineers means that there is no additional assembly effort. The original strut will be replaced with the KW coilover strut including dampers. The KW strut will be connected with the original plug of Volkswagen by Plug-and-Play. The VW onboard-electronics recognizes the adaptive dampening system at once and regulates the wheel control valve within a millisecond area.

    Any Q's just pm me or check our site at www.evlmotorsports.com.au

    Cheers
    Erik



    Quote Originally Posted by Xciteu View Post
    Ok,here's my dilemma. I've got a Golf R on order that has just come off the production line,been given the VIN number and have optioned the ACC suspension. I've also acquired a new set of 19" wheels(volk vrg2). My problem is I'd like the car to sit a bit lower than stock,preferably just on top of the tyres. I've been thinking of installing a set of KW coilovers with the ACC delete option(a waste of $1500 I know!).
    Has anyone done this? I've read that the change in the steering characteristics still applies if you install the ACC delete option,is this correct? Would i just be better off using some lowering springs to achieve the height i want? My main concern doing this is that the factory shock may bottom out,become worn much quicker and that the ACC is set up for the factory ride height. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Oh,and how harsh a ride would the KW's be compared to stock? I've had coilovers on my last two previous cars so I'm quite aware that it will be a much firmer ride,but Im not going to spend the better part of 65k to have a ride that rattles my teeth out!
    Last edited by Erik@EVL; 03-06-2011 at 01:22 AM.

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    What are the spring rates like vs stock?

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    Ask Fabalicious he had factory ACC and now has V3's and absolutely loves them! I have sent him a text to post in this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik@EVL View Post
    We have just finished the development on the New KW DDC Coilovers that will integrate into VW Adaptive Chassis Control system. Testing it in Australia right now and first kits will be ETA October. So you can keep your VW DCC and get the added benefits of the KW Coilover Suspension. With the ability to change the complete feel/handling of the car, It's almost 3 suspensions in one.
    Hello, which adaptive damper technology does this use?
    Hydraulic actuated, valve/solenoid actuated, magneto rheological?

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    Hey guys,

    Yeah i have made the change from ACC to KW V3's.

    Could not be happier with the change.

    A tiny bit more firm, but about the same as ACC in sport, with a tiny bit more firmness.

    Steering is set at as per comfort (lighter - which i prefer).

    Changing just the springs can be done but this it is strongly not advised as they will not nicely match the shockers.

    Going coilovers is the best way to go as a package rather than mismatching the factory shocks with aftermarket springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik@EVL View Post
    We have just finished the development on the New KW DDC Coilovers that will integrate into VW Adaptive Chassis Control system. Testing it in Australia right now and first kits will be ETA October.
    Got my attention here! Any ideas on estimated cost? Need another dev car

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    Hi Corey_R

    In house secrets , so telling the exact detail can't happen just yet. It is definitely not magneto rheological though.


    Quote Originally Posted by Corey_R View Post
    Hello, which adaptive damper technology does this use?
    Hydraulic actuated, valve/solenoid actuated, magneto rheological?

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    We have done quite allot of testing already, but you never know. The more can always be merrier! Costs come out mid next week - this I can't post online due to forum rules. We did already some huge changes on the Australian RRP 2 months ago, so this will follow the same model.


    Quote Originally Posted by dave_r View Post
    Got my attention here! Any ideas on estimated cost? Need another dev car
    Last edited by Erik@EVL; 03-06-2011 at 03:28 PM. Reason: forgot the quote

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    Hi Kaanage,

    Not the same. Exact rate used by the KW is actually not comparable to other suspensions as it has to match always the damper forces used. The KW is unique in that it separates both the high and low damper forces in both rebound and compression, with individual adjustment varies on each Variant type. So the Springs we use match these damper forces we can create and adjust on the KW. You would perhaps never use that spring on another brand as it may may not create the same damper forces, hence mismatch and poor performance.

    Sorry for the blab mate, but you'll see there is more than spring rates to analyse if you want the correct performance/comfort/handling.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaanage View Post
    What are the spring rates like vs stock?

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    Aaah nuts! The Delphi MagnetoRide system is considered the best out there atm. Hence why it's used in the only American car which can go around corners (Corvette) and by Ferrari and Audi etc. I'm sure it'll still be great though.

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