Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 - Tempe Tyres Sydney - 225/40/18 - $250

[Martin]

I suspect there arent many drivers on this forum that could really tell the difference

Agree - I am totally happy with the Michelin PS3 from a handling point of view
I'm just searching for a bit more grip so I can use available power for acceleration from low speed

What I can advise about the Asym2s aside from performance is:

1/ they have a massive rim protector on them so they provide better rim protection than other tyres
2/ the rim protector gives the appearance thet they are almost 20mm wider than reality and gives the appearance of a little bit of stretch.

The Michelin PS3 is somewhat like that also - not by 20mm but same theme

[Diesel_vert]

but for the half a dozen top shelf tyres that typically get tested, I suspect there arent many drivers on this forum that could really tell the difference.

I would agree with that, except that modified vehicles can highlight some characteristics that would otherwise go unnoticed.

deisel-vert, technically you may be correct that one brand is better than another

I don't recall stating that.

What I can say is, that in terms of performance, the Michelin PSS is considered to be best tyre on the market (within the same category, so exclude the likes of the Bridgestone RE-11), superior than Michelin's own PS3 and the Goodyear F1A2.

That's not to say the Goodyear F1A2 is a poor tyre - in fact, far from it, we are talking the cream of the crop here - but the Michelin PSS is the creamiest of them all.

but I could probably find half a dozen different test with different results.

That's true. The final result and ranking depends on how each of the various metrics are weighed - some of which may or may not be relevant depending on the reader.

In isolation however, the performance of the Michelin PSS in areas of grip, handling, response, traction, etc are impressive. Or about as impressive as a normal road tyre gets, because it's not the only game in town (see RE-11).

[nat225]

Looks like that USA RE-11 is what we know as the RE002

andrenalin RE002 = budget performance made in indonesia as sold at costco

potenza re-11 = same class as advan neova ad08 = expensive and made in japan

michelin pss made in usa (225 40 1 n grip is very close to ad08:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...-sport-page-10

[drc13]

Thanks for the heads up Martin, just had 4 of them fitted this afternoon.

Was tossing up between the F1s and michelin PSS from tirerack but this deal made the decision for me.

Mine seem to be mid 30s 2012 tires which isnt as good as yours but still fine.

[Martin]

I have to say, and remember I'm running a StageII ECU, the Michelin PS3 has the wood on the Eagle F1 off the line

Also, the Michelin PS3 is generaly more quiet than the Eagle F1

[larsie]

Just wanted to mention that yesterday Jax Quickfit supplied and fitted 4 x Goodyear F2 Asymmetric 2 for $239 per corner. But size was 235/40 R18.

[Martin]

That's certainly a good price

Tempe tyres are doing the Michellin PS3 for ~$240 each - they would be my choice

[brad]

Martin
PS3 != PSS
You'll find the PSS are a step above. Even the PS2 are a better performance tyre than the PS3.
PSS

PS2

PS3


The differences are quite subtle but one of the main ones (IIRC) is that the PSS comes with slightly less tread depth.

You might also consider:
cheap & cheerful Kumho KU36


Nitto NT05


Yokohama Advan AD08


All of these will take you up a notch in terms of traction

[Dutch77]

Beat me to the punch, I was just about to post that I'd finally gotten around to reading the tyre test and was pleased to see it featured the 225/40 x 18s this year.. oops was still on page 1 reading this.

Given how well the Pirelli P-Zeros performed this time around, has anyone played with them?

[Martin]

Whoops - I was not paying attention and assumed the post was about PS3 rather than PSS

I want to try a pair of PSS (can't find them locally)
I need more grip off the line (stage2 ECU), that's my only complaint
The PS3 are much better than the EagleF1 off the line
But when hot the EagleF1 does turn in really good when driving hard

The Yokohama Advan AD08 should be good but their 225/40/18 is only rated 88W
They do a 225/45/18 91Y however...hmmm, small speedo error

Has anybody used the Nitto NT05??? (I was worried they would not perform)