Beware of cheap ebay spacers.

**kaanage** · 12-11-2012, 09:31 PM

Sorry but I don't understand either of your points - can you add some pics or diagrams to further illustrate what you are trying to say?

**Ben J** · 12-11-2012, 09:45 PM

I understand what he is saying. I will take some of the blame for this breaking, I should have got the vernier calipers out checked more thouroughly that they were right. I know brands like adaptec can make 10mm ones that will work but these were obviously off by just a little bit (less than a mm probably). When I put them on the car they looked like they were sitting fine, but obviously they weren't quite right.

**kapowww** · 12-11-2012, 09:52 PM

Yeah it's hard to explain but I tried to draw a crappy picture in good old Paint to try and illustrate what I'm saying.

Originally Posted by Ben J

I understand what he is saying. And yeah I will take some of the blame for this breaking, I should have checked more thouroughly that they were right. I know brands like adaptec can make 10mm ones that will work but these were obviously off by just a little bit (less than a mm probably). When I put them on the car they looked like they were sitting fine, but obviously they weren't quite right.

I don't think 10mm would work regardless of the brand. If you're going from 57.1mm CB to 57.1mm CB no matter what happens you can't fit more than 10mm of hub in there.. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't picture a working 10mm hub & wheel centric design.

It's not necessarily a faulty eBay product, but definitely a faulty eBay description and dumbass seller.

**Ben J** · 12-11-2012, 09:58 PM

You're probably right. I have read of people having success with this size though and adaptec said they could make some that would work (and ive only heard good things about them)
But 10mm is just too small in reality and so I certainly won't be buying this size again. The sellers description was definitely misleading. I'm still waiting to hear back from them after complaining, but being us based they probably haven't even started work for the week yet, so ill give it a few days and see what they have to say.
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**kapowww** · 12-11-2012, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ben J

You're probably right. I have read of people having success with this size though and adaptec said they could make some that would work (and ive only heard good things about them)

Yeah I'd recommend thicker if you want hub and wheel centric

**Ben J** · 12-11-2012, 10:27 PM

I've done a little reading on the whole wheel centric debate and also discussed it a little with one of my mechanical engineering uni tutors. I also wouldn't be overly concerned about not running wheel centric (I'm actually currently using non wheel centric spacers in the back) but preferably I would like wheel centric up front. Am not sure what size spacers ill buy for up front now, will do some more measuring and figure out how small I can go while still clearing the brakes. Probably around 6-8mm non wheel centric (obviously)

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**kapowww** · 12-11-2012, 10:52 PM

I removed my comments about non wheel centric spacers as I didn't want to open another can of worms =] but I know exactly what you're saying.

Good luck with it all bro and thank God your mishap wasn't any worse.

**Ben J** · 12-11-2012, 10:57 PM

Thanks! Yeah, I'm glad the hate has died down a bit on the last page or two, people are always going to disagree with this sort of thing but I don't want to turn this into a big fight and have the thread locked. Hopefully people will read through and be cautious when buying cheap spacers off ebay, and stay away from 10mm hub and wheelcentric spacers in general.

**gareth_oau** · 13-11-2012, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by dylan8

interesting! is that 12.5mm each side? or 12.5mm over all track (half each side...)

track can be increased 25mm overall

**kaanage** · 13-11-2012, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by kapowww

Yeah it's hard to explain but I tried to draw a crappy picture in good old Paint to try and illustrate what I'm saying.

Christ! There's no way that would work but I would have thought it's be pretty obvious too, when you tried to fit them on, even if you have hugely exaggerated the gap in your pic.

Originally Posted by Ben J

I also wouldn't be overly concerned about not running wheel centric (I'm actually currently using non wheel centric spacers in the back)

Originally Posted by Ben J

stay away from 10mm hub and wheelcentric spacers in general.

The big chamfer around the hub on a good hubcentric spacer does help locate the wheel and transfer load - it's better than nothing. For sure, a wheel centric spacer won't work if the spacer thickness aproaches that of the hub protrusion (unless you go to a larger centrebore)