Reply With Quotethat makes no sense to mewhere exactly are you planning on mounting the bag?
I'd just go with some bagyards, as they are adjustable shocks. (and you just adjust the bag pressure to give the desired spring rate).
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Howdy all, just researching for later on.
the R32 is a "low car standard", and as such has paint scuffs etc on the body. In time I want to fix these up, and also maintain the new paint.
The car "feels like poo" on OEM monroe suspension as well.
I was considering airrride, to protect the panels, have it looking how I want yada yada.
Though I still want it to handle.
I have looked at airride setups from stanceworks/vortex etc, and have not seen a setup similar to how I am thinking.
WHAT IF.....
What if, instead of pressure holding the bags up during normal driving, and then exhausting to lower the car, the system was reversed.
Mount the bag above the body, use pressure to lower it (obviously needs to overcome spring pressure) and then exhaust to raise.
The reason I say this (I know Bagyard use Bilstein struts) is I want to have a quality ride that handles, and looks good when parked/at low speeds.
As I understand it, the bag over coil options on the market at the moment are just that, fully deflated only go as low as the coils are wound to, and when raised at all, riding on pressure/partially inflated bags.
Hope this makes sense to all!
Dom/anyone else with ideas?
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that makes no sense to me
I'd just go with some bagyards, as they are adjustable shocks. (and you just adjust the bag pressure to give the desired spring rate).
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Gah sorry!Originally Posted by Jarred
that makes no sense to me
I'd just go with some bagyards, as they are adjustable shocks. (and you just adjust the bag pressure to give the desired spring rate).
I'll try and draw something up.
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Alrighty:
No1:
Conventional bag over coil setup
when pressure goes through the DCV to "pump up the bag" car raises. Under normal driving, the car is driving on air pressure, not the shock (BY use Bilstein I think?). When the dcv goes the other way, pressure is exhausted and the car rides as low as the coils are wound (in simple terms).
No2:
When pressure is applied, the car lowers. Ie low speed driving for show/hard parking. Under normal driving circumstances (cutting through corners) the coils can be a decent length up for good handling/stroke length, and there is no pressure in the bags so it acts as a normal coilover setup at "low height", but not slammed.
If that makes sense?
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I see where you are coming from and nothing that a lot of work couldn't achieve but that would mean sitting the bags at the front on top of the strut towers. You'd have to lower the strut towers to have enough clearance with the underside of the bonnet. That would mean shorter struts which would result in less travel.
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Exactly as I thought.
Obviously if it was feasible, it'd be done already. Just gauging opinion on the idea/what might work/previous experience etc
Ta!
The Swiss Cheese
My opinion
You either spend the money on proper bags, or dont.
You dont want to have something half assed with suspension. Too risky.
What’s behind you doesn’t matter..
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Wasn't looking to get out of it half arsed or cheap Pierre, was trying to see if there was a solution aroundthat can have the car handle like it was EXACTLY on KW/Bilstein whatever coils, but still be able to hit the floor when you want.
Proper bags, well I haven't driven on them before so have no idea how they feel (for cornering etc), primarily the reason for looking at this route
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nothing half arsed about thinking outside the square.
KW do a hydraulic system that can raise/lower the car up to 45mm and installs onto some of their coilover kits. Hate to know the price though.
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Yeah HLS is probably an option too?
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