Airride idea/query

[fuzion]

i can get a price for you
but they arent cheap lol

[schoona]

Wait till I'm sitting down and rub my shoulders gently? lol.

Not needed for a while yet, just notched up 5k + haha

[Ben J]

from what I've read air can handle just aswell as street coilovers if you set it up right. have a look through here VWVortex.com - AirRide and Performance. if you havent before. I don't understand how your suggested idea would handle any better though? Havent had a good think about it though, not in a smart mood, haha.

God id love to bag the mk3

[WABIT]

if your not too keen on bag setup's, bagyard airride have another alternative about to come on sale...

New Product Monday!

We're pleased to announce the BagYard HyLift Suspension System! This system will fit over Bilstein PSS coilovers and give you 2" of lift! The system uses a collapsable cup (as shown) that fits over your threaded coil body and mates with a small hydraulic pump. We'll post several more pictures throughout the day.

We...'re currently putting together a list of those who might be interested in this setup. If you're interested, please send us an email with your contact information and we will keep you up to speed as the system becomes available.

Email:

info@openroadtuning.com

[dark]

pretty awesome!

[byza]

Your idea is almost in the lines of a minitruck setup to some degree... The issue you would have is the clearance of having it above the strut tower and the bonnet particularly for the front... There was a bagged honda accord wagon on the central coast with a full custom tube bag setup aobve the strut towers but this also meant raise bonnet areas which will look very off in my mind... you could lower your strut towers but for the price of doing so/sale of car later, really dont see the point when a full proven setup is available...

dom, that setup would be awesome for those running real low static and not interested in bags but still want lift the car slightly when required... that would probably be a stronger option then bags and potentially could be used in a competitive track environment?? - mate did you ever get my PM??

[WABIT]

yes byza, thats correct, if people really keen on spending big dollars on bilstein racing coilover's but would like the extra height without compromising on ANY performance, the hylift is they key!

if you want to be parked tucking rim all round! buy airbags.

and nahh dude, just had a quick look through my PM inbox, i didnt get anything from you? want to send it again plz?

[schoona]

Thanks for the info Dom.

Have another possible idea.

Multi stage shock absorber? 2nd stage activated (all integrated into the shock, not an add-on like above or HLS) just adds an extra volume of fluid (F = P on A) A = area of extension side annulus, Force being corner weight. Work out required pressure. Governed by length of stroke.

Couple this with a counterbalnce valve (pilot pressure to open a non return (check) valve to allow fluid to travel in the opposite direction) and may be able to see it working. Though a hydraulic circuit would be very expensive top purchase, let alone R&D and be the guinea pig.

Still keen (if only for my own minds sake) to see if it can be done with accurate control of fluids

(Counter balance valves are also called load locks)



And a good link:

http://www.hydraulicspneumatics.com/...le/True/78667/

[Mr_Bob]

I would use a rocker link.

Imagine you have a strut brace like this:

remove the centre bar, and replace with a rocking link on each side.

the left hole one is attached to the top of the shock/strut, the middle is attached to the strut mount (where you remove the centre bar)
the last one sits above these, and is joined across the engine bay similarly to the center bar that you removed
however, you would use a device that can adjust in length.
(alternatively, you could use 2 devices, that mount vertically on the strut tower)

when the bar is extended the mounting point of the strut is forced downwards, as it pivots on the middle mount.
If the link rotates until the left and middle holes are above each other, the force of the vehicle's mass will not be applied to the device used to raise the car
(this can be done by setting the pivot and mounting points relative to each other)

at this point, the coilover behaves exactly as it would if installed conventionally.

Obviously you would need much tougher mounts and rocker links,
and hopefully you have a good imagination to picture what i've described.
maybe i'll try to draw a picture later.

clearance in the engine bay would be an issue...
would be room in the boot though.

[nonovw]

hi,
I do not quite understand because my English is a little rusty and I use software translation pretty bad from what I read but if I just allow me one of my friend in France, also has a R32 turbo hgp on airride and has no worries ...