2011 Golf R understeer

[worx]

Hey,

I guess a lot of people have the same problem as me.

Sorry for starting a new thread that is not needed, if this is a repost.

What do people do on here to fix understeer with a new Golf R?

[Corey_R]

There are a range of things

Suspension
Sway bars
Anti Lift Kits
Unibrace Underbody
Haldex AWD controller

Different people do different combinations of the above. I don't know anyone who has done all of them, or even evaluated all of them, to give an opinion about which gives the best bang for you buck, biggest change, or which combinations work best. I presume some of that would come down to driving styles and requirements anyway.

I'll let other people recommend specific brands and components.

[worx]

So far I have had the car two weeks and I have done the whiteline rear sway and the whiteline adjustable castor/anti lift kit.

It is a loads better, but I still get a bit of low speed understeer. I was thinking about playing with the camber next. Also looking at the Haldex AWD controller (don't really want to go that far tho)

[Corey_R]

Well, the Haldex AWD controller will change it from FWD bias to RWD bias meaning under/oversteer at low speeds can be controlled with your right foot. I remember a video of a Eurotec or Sportec R (in another language) on Youtube who had done the Haldex controller, and they could do a flick 180 at a rather low speed. Was great!

[worx]

Looks like it mite have to be the go ah well, who needs money anyway!

[5pot]

You can try unbolting the front sway bar to see if that changes things... Even trail braking into the corner can help turn-in. Is it pushing wide when you're exiting a corner or on the way in?

[Mr_Bob]

Definite gains to be had in driver technique.

I did a half day rally course in Evos and STis
At first they would understeer, but as I got the confidence to brake later and harder, the rear got lighter and i got more and more turn-in, then oversteer.

Whilst that was on dirt, similar principles still apply on tarmac
Timing of brake/steer/throttle is critical to the balance of the vehicle, as does apexing technique.

If your entry to the apex is shallow (early), you may be inclined to hit the throttle before the car has turned in, which is likely to induce understeer.

AWD's do tend to have so much grip that you can get away with a hamfisted approach through corners.

[worx]

You can try unbolting the front sway bar to see if that changes things... Even trail braking into the corner can help turn-in. Is it pushing wide when you're exiting a corner or on the way in?

Sort of mid corner I think.

Definite gains to be had in driver technique.

I did a half day rally course in Evos and STis
At first they would understeer, but as I got the confidence to brake later and harder, the rear got lighter and i got more and more turn-in, then oversteer.

Whilst that was on dirt, similar principles still apply on tarmac
Timing of brake/steer/throttle is critical to the balance of the vehicle, as does apexing technique.

If your entry to the apex is shallow (early), you may be inclined to hit the throttle before the car has turned in, which is likely to induce understeer.

AWD's do tend to have so much grip that you can get away with a hamfisted approach through corners.

I have put 3,000km on it now. I would have to agree with the driver technique thing, I don't have much of a problem anymore. Guess I'm getting used to it. I am so used to getting oversteer easy, I that was the thing putting me off.

[triode12]

So far I have had the car two weeks and I have done the whiteline rear sway and the whiteline adjustable castor/anti lift kit.

It is a loads better, but I still get a bit of low speed understeer. I was thinking about playing with the camber next. Also looking at the Haldex AWD controller (don't really want to go that far tho)

Before spending money on the AWD controller and regardless of the brand of sway you choose...I would recommend getting a front sway bar to go with your RSB. You will find the improvement to be worth the money. It is a shame that you didn't get it when you did the ALK as the cost of install would be a lot less installing it together with the ALK than on it's own.

I've had my car with just an RSB installed and now with both sways installed. The car has virtually no understeer with both installed and tracks like it is on rails and is much more composed and predictable on turns.

[worx]

I'm a bit careful with front sway bars, I have had them make the car understeer. I put one on my last M5, it was shocking! mite give it a go on this car if you think it is the go.