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  1. #61
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    thanks for that reply. when accelerating hard in first or second gear the real-time calculator gets stuck at 99L/100km (i guess it cant go into triple digits) and that was even before the getting hte powerchip in. speaking of noise, i love the sound my tdi makes... sounds like there's a truck stuck in a refined euro shell hehe. i guess i should be driving more like a grandma to get better figures but its a bit hard when living in sydney oh but i just thought of something... at 2000rpm, in lower gears (1st to 4th), wouldnt that give significantly more engine resistance. so im thinking that although the burning of the fuel might be the most efficient as you said, it might have to compensate for the resistance of the engine slowing it down? just a thought...
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    good advice... but one thing..

    engine braking doesn't improve your fuel economy, and using the brakes wont worsen your fuel economy - EXCEPT where you slow unnecessarily and then need to accelerate again. (infact, the most efficient way to stop, fuel consumption wise, would be to turn off the engine competely, but do not do this, its dangerous). you could roll to a stop in neutral.... but dont, its a bad driving habit. the most efficient way to do this safely is to stay in a high gear and disengage the clutch before the revs go below idle.

    the slower you accelerate, the better fuel economy you will have.

    the most efficient point to drive your engine at is at peak torque (also peak BMEP for those who understand) (anyone wonder why you get crap economy in a revvy engine with peak torque at 5000 rpm?)
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    dont worry, my car isnt lacking in the firm acceleration department haha... all that torque in such a small car means the redline is so easy to get to. i think what you're saying with the saving of fuel by using the engine to slow down is that if you do it that way, the speed of the car causes the engine to keep the revs up. when you put on the brake and clutch/neutral, the engine has to start burning fuel to keep the revs up. if his GLD is manual then it would be the same. in fact i would argue any manual car uses less fuel if you use engine braking.

    oh you mentioned that they use 0.5L/hr idling... mine uses 0.7! and if i have the heating/aircon on it uses anywhere between 0.8 and 1.1L/hr... whats all that about? i think ill mention it to the guys at the dealership when its first service is due... only a few months away now. and at the moment im running on the the stock wheels/tyres, im painting my other ones black this weekend but the fuel figures seem to be un-noticeably similar whether ive got the 225/45 tyres or the 195/65 tyres.

    a friend of mine who has the identical car to mine also says he hits that 99L mark fairly easily.
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    never gotten below 0.7 over the life of the car. and i should clarify that my ecu isnt "chipped" (sorry used the wrong word) i should say powerbox instead of powerchip, i only recently got it, didnt want to get it before the engine had some miles on it. i think im going to take it out ive decided i love my car too much. oh well ill mention it to the blokes at the dealership but then again they're more interested in sales than fixing... or maybe i should mention that i might be thinking of buying a passat for the family that should make them jump to it thanks for the help guys - michael.
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    Well, here are my preliminary (rough) figures for the blue mountains cruise day yesterday, which is basically the first time i've had the diesel out.
    It was pretty hard driving up the mountains, and trying to keep up with all the mk3's and 4s, so i expected it to use a bit of juice, (that, and i still have a fuel injector return line leak), but the figures were somewhere around 5.5l/100...

    Was going to fill up and find out exactly how much i used today, but i was out supervising some drilling near campbelltown, and the drillers filled me up out of their fuel cart... Can't turn down an offer for 20l of free fuel..

    Pretty good figures considering the driving conditions i'd say.
    I was also surprised at how well she pulled up the hills.

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    Jetta 2.0TDi

    We did a 500klm round trip down south in WA starting in Perth 2 days after taking delivery with 150k on the clock and got 5.6l/100k ... cruise control on 110kph...impressive or what?

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    turbopassat

    My '80 passat with a 1.6TDI gets 6L/100k's at 110-130kmph (highway driving) and about 6.5L/100k's around town. Im sure it would do ~5L/100k's if i didnt drive like an idiot and didnt have the max fuel screw turned right up. Still, pretty awesome for an old car thats usually full of stuff and isn't slow like the 1.5's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mollins View Post
    My '80 passat with a 1.6TDI gets 6L/100k's at 110-130kmph (highway driving) and about 6.5L/100k's around town. Im sure it would do ~5L/100k's if i didnt drive like an idiot and didnt have the max fuel screw turned right up. Still, pretty awesome for an old car thats usually full of stuff and isn't slow like the 1.5's.
    where the hell did you find that mate
    how does the 1.6Tdi go? BOOST IT UP
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    mmm... passat

    Quote Originally Posted by GoLfMan View Post
    where the hell did you find that mate
    how does the 1.6Tdi go? BOOST IT UP
    found it in brisbane... had to trek up and pick it up..

    1.6TDI is unreal.. already got boost up from 7psi to 13. Im gonna intercool it then do some more injector pump mods.. hoping for 20psi before i need a copper head gasket and stronger studs... then onwards to 30....

    ill get round to doing a write up with pics and everything one day when uni isnt so insane

    cheers..

    mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by JansJetta View Post
    We did a 500klm round trip down south in WA starting in Perth 2 days after taking delivery with 150k on the clock and got 5.6l/100k ... cruise control on 110kph...impressive or what?
    Hey JansJetta,

    A couple of weekends ago the wife and I did a roundup trip from Melbourne to Victor Harbor of 1,600 km and got 4.7l/100 with cruise on about 105kph.

    And for life of car we've got 6.1l/100. That's on 25,000km with mostly wife driviing in the city. We're impressed too!

    What car Jetta do you have?
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