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Thread: Redlining a diesel

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    Redlining a diesel

    Will this hurt a diesel since it has a heavier crankshaft, rods and pistons than a petrol engine of the same size? Or will it hurt the unit injector pumps in a PD engine?
    I assume the valve gear won't care since the redline is so low.

    I sometimes redline it in 1st since the gap between 1st and 2nd is so large.

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    It will protect itself from damage with the limiter.

    I don't think your the only one that redlines the TDI. I know I do.

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    Not much point in redlining a Diesel since the engine is most effective at about 80% of max rpm. I remember my Astra was an absolute animal at 4,100 rpm and it had the cut-out set at 5,100 rpm.

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    as long as you don't exceed the red line, i'm reckon it'll be fine. I'm sure VW tested it above and beyond.

    I give mine a good rev everynow and then, power drops off about 850-500 rpm before red, so it doesn't often see it though.


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    Give it heaps (within reason) IMO, clears the turbo vanes and car runs better as well
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    Like in a Petrol engine you're not really going to blow anything up - just shorten the life of the engine eventually. I'd recommend you change a little before redline though. If you look at dyno graphs you'll see that most diesels drop off heavily in power and torque near redline so there's no use going higher than 4000rpm in most cases and even with the drop in revs when you change gear you'll still be in the meat zone with an early shift because of the relatively flat torque curve of the diesels. I read an article somewhere on the net where they did 0-100 and 400m testing on shift patterns in the diesels and the one's shifting earlier before redline were dramatically faster.
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    Go a few kays at 4,000 rpm in third every now and then to get the engine rid of soot. i think the "procedure" is called "the Italian clean"

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    Actually, the redlining is occuring sometimes when I downshift form 2nd to 1st a bit too early.

    I never go near it on acceleration (never really get near to 90% of the red line, usually potter around 30%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaanage View Post
    Actually, the redlining is occuring sometimes when I downshift form 2nd to 1st a bit too early.
    Yes that can harm the engine if you're exceeding the redline.

    A rev limiter won't stop the engine from spinning over the redline on down changes.

    Pistons will hit valves eventually depending on what revs you're seeing. Did this once on my race bike at the track, not fun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickshift3000 View Post
    Yes that can harm the engine if you're exceeding the redline.

    A rev limiter won't stop the engine from spinning over the redline on down changes.

    Pistons will hit valves eventually depending on what revs you're seeing. Did this once on my race bike at the track, not fun...
    Except the DSG wont shift down if it will result in too many revs. Maybe he has a manual though.
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