Gotta love Tdi economy

[pjbplumbing@bigpond.com]

I don't know for sure if any fitters are doing small wiz bangers for LPG conversion: most are simply run off their feet doing large diesels.
As far as taking up boot space I see no more of a problem than the Ewe -beaut hybrid electric cars we have to have now - with a boot full of deadly corrosive, heavy, pollutant batteries? As I said - the LPG cylinder is very small and in fact a clever installer could use 2x smaller cylinders which could be fitted up against a wheel arch or some place. The 2x cylinders combine could make say 25 litres of LPG; which would be enough for most small cars.

[Pumpe-Düse]

It all sounds great but all the vehicles that are shown or mentioned in the applications are either 4wd or trucks like (F100 / F250) so there is plenty of clearance underneath for a gas cylinder. If you can show me an application on a Golf or Polo where it doesn't take up half the boot or reduce the under carriage clearance then I would probably consider it in the future. I am not into 12 inch sub woofers and other fully sick devices in the boot, so that's not part of the equation, but I do need the boot space I have and wouldn't be prepared to sacrifice it with a permanently fixed gas cylinder regardless of the obvious benefits. Excellent idea though but perhaps not for the small diesel cars, unless you don't require any boot space.


Russ

For those who don't need the boot space (yours truly), its a great thing. If I end up modifying the Polo TDI instead of replacing it with a proper sports car, I'll probably go for LPG-Diesel. Don't care if it takes up the entire boot, I can count on one hand how many times I've used my boot to carry something bigger then a single, small shopping bag in the last 3 years on one hand.

[pjbplumbing@bigpond.com]

Well said Pumpe,
It amazes me how people moan about boot space - but in reality most dont use the boot..most are just kid fetchers and glorified taxis.
Even making a false floor across the base, using a sheet of plywood (made in Australia of course), would solve most issues?
I see no arguement why any one couldnt have it done on any car - it can and is being done on stationary Diesel motors, trucks, & buses, so what makes little buzz boxes any different?

[Russ59]

Well said Pumpe,
It amazes me how people moan about boot space - but in reality most dont use the boot..most are just kid fetchers and glorified taxis.
Even making a false floor across the base, using a sheet of plywood (made in Australia of course), would solve most issues?
I see no arguement why any one couldnt have it done on any car - it can and is being done on stationary Diesel motors, trucks, & buses, so what makes little buzz boxes any different?

Having an opinion is one thing moaning is something entirely different. I agree that it is a great idea (gas conversion) and if I didn't require my boot space (which I do use on a daily basis) it probably wouldn't bother me having a gas cylinder in there. Maybe down the track I may consider it but in the meantime it's just not practical for myself and probably many others so rather than calling people moaners why not keep comments like that to yourself and just stick to the topic !!!

Russ

[Logzy]

Well said Pumpe,
It amazes me how people moan about boot space - but in reality most dont use the boot..most are just kid fetchers and glorified taxis.
Even making a false floor across the base, using a sheet of plywood (made in Australia of course), would solve most issues?
I see no arguement why any one couldnt have it done on any car - it can and is being done on stationary Diesel motors, trucks, & buses, so what makes little buzz boxes any different?

If youre that passionate about every diesel owner installing LPG then Im sure you've got your 911 booked in for a gas conversion too.
After all, petrol engines can run on gas too and im sure you can find somewhere for the gas tank so why wouldnt you.!

[gldgti]

settle down fella's its all in the name of economy. play nice.

[Greg Roles]

I've been looking at powerups and think it's the way to go. I don't give a rats about economy, I want the herbs! Economy is an added bonus. One of those cool small donut tanks in the spare wheel well, or a small tank in the place of that ludicrously large rear muff on the Golf is the berries. That way I can keep my fully sick sub and amp setup I'm about to install, and keep the stock boot. Best of everything! Add to that my brother is planning on getting his installers licence adds to the appeal....

The concept of complete combustion, and little soot is awesome, as it may allow removal of the DPF without adding to the pollution or visible emissions I have to breathe in when I cycle. That then frees up the exhaust restriction, for yet more imprezza slaying torque.

Shyte, if you could add Nitrous at low revs and get power, I'd have already ordered a kit, regardless of it's legallity....

I'm just in awe of how great the stock car is, and my long term plan is to convert it to bio, and have an additional "on demand" LPG system. I'm playing with the thing in the meantime within reason, with the aim of setting up the engine for this longer term plan. Overdue on a few projects at the moment actually!

THEN...I can chip it...

[pjbplumbing@bigpond.com]

I have already looked at converting the Porsche.
Two problems exsit;
1/ Location of gas cylinder
2/ Using hot engine oil to heat the converter - water pumpers use coolant to heat the liquid LPG, converting it to gas. I have yet to see if anyone makes or uses a converter using oil?
Cogdoc,
You sound pretty keen ... your would make a good project to cover here?
Good for you.
Years ago, my FJ60 (landcruiser), I did an engine swap; removed the hopeless Toytota 6 and fitted a 350 V8 Chevy. I then ran this on LPG wholly, no petrol. Oh what a feeling -- Chevy. What a buzz that was!
Such a transformation.

[Logzy]

I have already looked at converting the Porsche.
Two problems exsit;
1/ Location of gas cylinder
2/ Using hot engine oil to heat the converter - water pumpers use coolant to heat the liquid LPG, converting it to gas. I have yet to see if anyone makes or uses a converter using oil?
Cogdoc,
You sound pretty keen ... your would make a good project to cover here?
Good for you.
Years ago, my FJ60 (landcruiser), I did an engine swap; removed the hopeless Toytota 6 and fitted a 350 V8 Chevy. I then ran this on LPG wholly, no petrol. Oh what a feeling -- Chevy. What a buzz that was!
Such a transformation.

I did the same with a VK Calais i had years ago, ran the 308 on straight gas with a Gas Research system, I had the heads done and a gas cam in it and it was sweet.

[gldgti]

anything illegal about setting it up yourself? the hardest part would surely be figuring out the filling system right?