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  1. #51

    Lpg

    You private TDI owners should all seriously consider having LPG added to your cars.
    You will increase performance, improve consumption figures, and extend the range you can travel on one tank. Oil life will be extended also.

    I say private owners, as Govt rebate only applies to private vehicles.
    Rebate is $2000.00
    Conversion cost between $3800 and $4600 depending on what system you install.
    Average performance figures range from 20 - 30%, ditto for fuel ltr/100.
    Trucks and buses are converting to it, so it has to be the way to go.

    I wanna do my T4 TDI, ASAP, but it is commercial registered and therefore no rebate? Does that make sense... NO? So I have to pay the lot.

    Peter

  2. #52
    Logzy Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by pjbplumbing@bigpond.com View Post
    You private TDI owners should all seriously consider having LPG added to your cars.
    You will increase performance, improve consumption figures, and extend the range you can travel on one tank. Oil life will be extended also.

    I say private owners, as Govt rebate only applies to private vehicles.
    Rebate is $2000.00
    Conversion cost between $3800 and $4600 depending on what system you install.
    Average performance figures range from 20 - 30%, ditto for fuel ltr/100.
    Trucks and buses are converting to it, so it has to be the way to go.

    I wanna do my T4 TDI, ASAP, but it is commercial registered and therefore no rebate? Does that make sense... NO? So I have to pay the lot.

    Peter
    No thankyou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logzy View Post
    No thankyou.
    He's actually right you know. LPG injection into Diesel engines is nothing but good. More power, more fuel economy, increased service life. Its an absolute win win.
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    Where are you supposed to put the gas tank ?? Good idea but it won't be suitable for a lot of people who just have enough boot space in their Golf's and Polo's now !! I was looking at converting my BA Falcon to LPG before I bought the Golf. That had a pretty generous boot area which would have been greatly effected once converted and the tank went in, they had the option of the spare wheel well tank also, but then you have to find somewhere for the spare and the tank only had a small capacity as well !! The conversion would be OK for the Touareg and some of the bigger VW models. I'm happy with my economy and power anyway and with fuel figures around 6 - 6.5 L / 100 k's that'll do me for now.

    Russ
    Last edited by Russ59; 21-09-2008 at 01:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ59 View Post
    Where are you supposed to put the gas tank ?? Good idea but it won't be suitable for a lot of people who just have enough boot space in their Golf's and Polo's now !! I was looking at converting my BA Falcon to LPG before I bought the Golf. That had a pretty generous boot area which would have been greatly effected once converted and the tank went in, they had the option of the spare wheel well tank also, but then you have to find somewhere for the spare and the tank only had a small capacity as well !! The conversion would be OK for the Touareg and some of the bigger VW models. I'm happy with my economy and power anyway and with fuel figures around 6 - 6.5 L / 100 k's that'll do me for now.

    Russ
    Agree, The last thing i want is a gas tank in my golf and im very happy with the economy.
    The other reason for no thanks is that the price of gas conversions has dramatically jumped in price since the government rebate and im not about to pay these greedy installers that have raised their prices of a conversion.
    The main winners from the rebate are the installers.
    Also the price of gas will rise once excise is applied by the government.
    The government were not silly in offering the rebates, get more poeple on gas cause they will get their money back in the excise when its applied anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpe-Düse View Post
    He's actually right you know. LPG injection into Diesel engines is nothing but good. More power, more fuel economy, increased service life. Its an absolute win win.
    Why an extended service life? I'd rather not risk it and change my oil often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volvo Driver View Post
    Why an extended service life? I'd rather not risk it and change my oil often.
    the term "service life" refers to how long something will last. Not how long you service it

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  8. #58

    conservative attitude

    Oh where, oh where does the conservative attitude come from?
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    Cause the LPG addition to a DIESEL, (not petrol) uses only a small amount of gas per cycle, you only need a small tank for the LPG, usually around 20% of the cars main fuel tank; therefore,
    a 30ltr tank is more than enough for most applications; the actual holding capacity of that tank is around 27ltrs. This tank is quite small by comparision to most petrol/LPG tanks - around 600mm x 180mm.
    For those with performance in mind this would have to be a "must have" addition, as the motor burns basically all of the fuel/air mix, instead of the usual 70-80% most diesel motors achieve. This is why the oil last longer and the emmisions are much less. A LPG diesel will basically not produce soot - soot is the unburnt fuel escaping.
    There are plenty of good web sites out there if you need convincing....
    Or put it this way: I foresee a time soon; in the next ten years, when all diesel motors will be using LPG. Thats how good it is.
    But I can hear it now... "what colour do the cylinders come in"?
    Will my sub-woofer still fit in the boot?
    Does that mean we need to use 2 different bowsers to fill up?
    What about my BBQ?
    so on and on...
    Peter

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    I have requested info from .......

    Here are the details submitted by the website user:
    Name: Steve
    Vehicle: 2007 Golf 2.0l TDI
    Email:
    State: NSW
    Comments: Can conversions be done to a Golf? Does installation impact on manufacturer's warranty?
    Where would the gas bottle go in a Golf?
    Cost for a Golf?

    Lets see what happens.
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    It all sounds great but all the vehicles that are shown or mentioned in the applications are either 4wd or trucks like (F100 / F250) so there is plenty of clearance underneath for a gas cylinder. If you can show me an application on a Golf or Polo where it doesn't take up half the boot or reduce the under carriage clearance then I would probably consider it in the future. I am not into 12 inch sub woofers and other fully sick devices in the boot, so that's not part of the equation, but I do need the boot space I have and wouldn't be prepared to sacrifice it with a permanently fixed gas cylinder regardless of the obvious benefits. Excellent idea though but perhaps not for the small diesel cars, unless you don't require any boot space.


    Russ
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