Excessively loud whistle

**gldgti** · 31-10-2014, 01:17 PM

Bad luck dude. I'm not convinced the two problems are related, but injector problems do exist for sure.
Here's hoping you can find someone who can sort it out for you.

**papa600** · 04-11-2014, 08:37 AM

OK bad news, and I'm stressed to the ****...

Fuel pump decided it will grenade itself...metal shavings in fuel filter, and injectors are stuck open, exhaust has diesel in it.

No there was no petrol put into it. out of warranty, 120,000km...

I've asked them to take a look at the option of second hand parts or refurbished parts.

There's no amount of venting that will get rid of this sore spot and money pit this has turned into.

Update No.3 Mechanic called, second hand parts, fuel pump, injectors, new filter and labour will cost $3800.

Happier than i was 20 minutes ago, still pissed though. Hand it to the guys at VW Village they're good.

**Ryeman** · 04-11-2014, 11:08 AM

I take it that this is the first recorded problem with the CR diesel?
If so could we move it to the CR problems thread......it'd be the first!
(mods?)

**papa600** · 04-11-2014, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Ryeman

I take it that this is the first recorded problem with the CR diesel?
If so could we move it to the CR problems thread......it'd be the first!
(mods?)

Lol, price went up to $4700 the particular pump on mine is quite a lot more than they thought.

**papa600** · 05-11-2014, 08:59 AM

Not particularly happy about the hidden costs involved in any damage to the diesel engine and systems.
For a now 5 year old car its kind of ridiculous.
I'm even up for the timing belt change...
While I always put Diesel ultimate from BP which I believe is the best we have in Australia, it should be noted when purchasing one of these that the tolerance for things to go majorly wrong with a bad batch of fuel are massive.
And the fact that all diesel available within Australia is sub par to what they have in Europe where diesels are common and fixes are obviously much cheaper.
I'm now more wary than ever about the hidden costs of these. To me the simple fact is if you have the money to spare go for your life. However someone in my situation whose just entering the property market and we all know how hard that is now in NSW, its a bad decision.
On another note they're great on fuel, they stay solid forever in regards to handling, the feature set is good and they're a great place to sit in. Unfortunately I've realised that there are more important things than a flash car that goes well and I don't have time or money to sit through this.

Something I've realised with my girlfriends car, from new shes had persistent issues, 1.5 years on shes still getting problems with her TDI. The latest being the mirror adjuster snapping off...after reading up on it its common though its not covered under warranty and will cost you depending on your model anywhere from $80-$150. For any buying a Mk6 its caused by a bubble in the join of the knob and control unit basically a bad join in the manufacturing.

I gotta say Volkswagens attitude to consumers and warranty related issues has been appalling in her case its almost as if they don't want to spend the time to look at it properly until its out of warranty and we have to pay for it.

For a time being I'll be keeping away from VAG, and I'm now forced to purchase a little runabout POS with money I cant spare and to sell the car I have in constant fear of the next problem happening. Coupled with VAG's inability to control its dealers and the huge communication gaps between VAG, the dealers and the help desk and mechanics. It feels as though they fumble through each problem arises constantly blaming problems on other things and deflecting questions with BS answers from a retard sitting in a chair and air-conditioned showroom service desk who reads off of a bit of paper that the "mechanic" scribbled on.

Obviously there's niggles with all cars, though out of my 6 mates with cars of varying types and age none have the issues that my girlfriend or I have had with our VW's.

If someone makes the conscious decision to buy a Diesel Golf costing the same as a Holden commodore or Ford Falcon even more expensive than a Kia, hyundai, toyota, nissan etc you'd expect more in the way of help under the short warranty compared with the competition, Its almost like once you leave the showroom you're on your own no matter what dealer/service centre you go to or how calm or assertive you try to be.

No doubt there are good story's to be had. I know plenty of happy VW owners but it seems like a small crowd out of the large consumer group.
To me, its like going from an Android to an Iphone, PC and MAC, Jap,Korean,American Built or German Euro...From now I'll always sacrifice comfort features and soft touch plastics for reliability and good service in order to save myself the agony of a 5 grand repair bill for an explodie fuel pump causing havoc or another DSG issue, or one of many bad sounds coming from the engine bay that VAG can never seem to fix and say its within normal operation sound however never give an explanation of what it is.

I'm tired VAG, you've wasted more of my life than I care to give you. I'm not saying you're ****, I'm just putting my experience out there for the world to read. Maybe it will save someone some agony they're not prepared for just like myself.

My experience has scared me, I'll never be able to drive and enjoy the experience without that thought in the back of my mind of what if "this" went wrong.

Cheers to those who tried to help much appreciated, Hopefully everyone from now on has a much better experience than I have had.

**kaanage** · 05-11-2014, 11:40 AM

So we finally have a local example of the HPFP shredding itself the way documented in numerous reports from North America

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The only good thing about this, for the rest of us, is that you remember having a dud batch of fuel from an independant, so it adds weight to the argument that fuel quality is critical to these CR engines and that the standard for diesel here and in Europe is adequate for the pump's survival (unlike North America).

Not much comfort for you, though

And the other issues with VAG and their attitude sure doesn't help.

**papa600** · 05-11-2014, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by kaanage

So we finally have a local example of the HPFP shredding itself the way documented in numerous reports from North America

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The only good thing about this, for the rest of us, is that you remember having a dud batch of fuel from an independant, so it adds weight to the argument that fuel quality is critical to these CR engines and that the standard for diesel here and in Europe is adequate for the pump's survival (unlike North America).

Not much comfort for you, though

And the other issues with VAG and their attitude sure doesn't help.

Unfortunately if you're outside of warranty you wear it. BIG TIME.

NOTE: I have read that there has been a few revisions of the fuel pump on the CR diesel and are now less susceptible to explosiveness or shredding as you mentioned. That's not to say that it wont happen anyway because it has been recorded that it can happen.

Official list of HPFP Failures - TDIClub Forums

See the link above.