Diesel Prices today wtf??? 30c dearer than regular ULP

[cetane]

"If we as a society, suddenly stopped buying brand X indefinately........ Who knows. It would take some co-ordinating and promoting on a national basis. Any volunteers?

$185.9 for diesel at my local BP in Perth today & tomorrow

If it were washing powder or cooking oil or a brand of clothing that the correspondent was writing about, Jan, then sure....It would work. Unfortunately we're dealing with a global commodity priced at a global level and a manufacturer/wholesaler/retailer relationship that although they deny it is in cahoots. I think that the only positive spin-off of this sad affair of rising fuel costs is that it may make people think twice about hopping in the car, jumping on the tractor or firing up the truck for unnecessary trips. I know that it's done that for me, so now (living 25km form the nearest shop) I plan my visits to town rather that just heading off in the car for a minor purchase. I kill my tractor engine rather than leaving it idling for long periods and I walk rather than use the ATV. If fuel prices go up by 30% then we must learn to economise on our vehicle use by a corresponding 30% to maintain the status quo. Now that would really hurt the oil companies...Wouldn't it?? (Not to mention our oil reserves would last a little longer.) The days of cheap oil are over...Get used to it!

[velly_16v_cab]

not sure if you have seen what is happening in the uk....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7420792.stm



a good graph at the bottom of the page, fuel is still cheaper here now than it was in the uk 9 years ago!!!

[cetane]

India and China subsidise their fuel (same as Indonesia did until this week....Are they still doing it but to a lesser extent)

It's interesting to read what's happening in other countries. For a long time the oil-price-rise-doubters (don't worry.. it's only temporary and it'll go down again...) and the "Peak Oil? Nonsense!" factions have said, "No matter what, people won't change their driving habits". But after reading this I wonder.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7421778.stm

[Spoddy]

Tried the cheap diesel just to see what would happen - tank pretty empty (light on) so put in $10.00 (man that wasn't much anyway!) and whilst it seemed to run OK man did it blow smoke - not black stuff but that magical white stuff I had problems with when I first got the car... but hey I had to check

As soon as I found another BP filled it to the brim and no more smoke and it smells nicer too.

[STV4SYT]

$82 for 47 litres last night.

[mr.damage]

$82 for 47 litres last night.

No good. I payed $1.35/l for my bio100 on friday. Glad my polo was one of the first to land here . It dose not have the no bio sticker on it or the section in the manual about not using it. It still has a section about it being ok. It realy p*&sed the guys off at the local dealer when i took it in for service and they noticed it had bio in it when they changed the fuel filter.
The head of the service department came to tell me i had voided my warranty.
I asked him why and all he could come up with was that it said I wasnt to use it on the sticker and in the manual, so I asked him to point out the section in the manual and the sticker. (burned). I then asked him after he picked his jaw up off the workshop floor for any valid reason why i cant use it. The only reason he could come up with is that the aus polo has no fuel heater.
This is no real problem if you use quality bio with a low tallow content and take a few simple precautions. In winter i keep a small jar of bio in the shed next to the car and on very cold mornings check it to see if it has gone cloudy it only did it one day last winter and it was -3 that morning . all i had to do was give the glow plugs 2 cycles and it started all be it a bit harder than normal then let it idle for a few mins b4 taking off.
If I know we are in for a cold burst of nights near 1 deg i put $5 of normal diesel in per tank of bio and have no starting problems at all.

[gldgti]

hey mate -

welcome! good to hear someone else using the bio - tell me, where abouts do you get yours? at $1.35/l thats a lot cheaper than i'm paying for mine (10c/l cheaper than regular diesel here in gosford, which is now about $1.85.


on the fuel price side, to the hatred of everyone, i know, i will say this: its about bloody time. we've been paying too little for fuel (and energy), for a very, very long time. now, we get the reality check. bring on the efficiency revolution i say.

- and yes, i pay my own bills.

[mr.damage]

welcome! good to hear someone else using the bio - tell me, where abouts do you get yours? at $1.35/l thats a lot cheaper than i'm paying for mine (10c/l cheaper than regular diesel here in gosford, which is now about $1.85.

Hi gldgti,
My bio supplier is a bit out of the way for you. But if you are ever down in Melbourne stop in at Fina fuels in Thomastown . Just remember he is only open 9-5 mon-fri . They make the fuel there on site and the guys are always helpful and willing to answer any questions you might have. The place is a bit tricky to find .
Sorry if this sounds a bit like an ad but they have been great and I will tell anyone who is interested about them and @ 1.35/l why not.

[origin]

Hi Spoddy,

Still going without white smoke after 2 weeks of cheap diesel.....

$10 is a lot for diesel... ....It save me $18 from empty tank....

I filled it up again on sunday after 2 weeks off test without problem on the same servo $151.9 for $16....going ...going.....


BIO-100 <--- cost our food supply high.....

[Spoddy]

Hi ya Origin,

I noticed today was the first time they aren't selling the diesel at 151.9.

I don't get to go to botany very often - like once in a blue moon - I live in the Blue mountains and doing the sums after tolls and the distance I only come out square.... so I'll stay round instead