Diesel Prices today wtf??? 30c dearer than regular ULP

[neil]

No good. I payed $1.35/l for my bio100 on friday. Glad my polo was one of the first to land here . It dose not have the no bio sticker on it or the section in the manual about not using it. It still has a section about it being ok. It realy p*&sed the guys off at the local dealer when i took it in for service and they noticed it had bio in it when they changed the fuel filter.
The head of the service department came to tell me i had voided my warranty.
I asked him why and all he could come up with was that it said I wasnt to use it on the sticker and in the manual, so I asked him to point out the section in the manual and the sticker. (burned). I then asked him after he picked his jaw up off the workshop floor for any valid reason why i cant use it. The only reason he could come up with is that the aus polo has no fuel heater.
This is no real problem if you use quality bio with a low tallow content and take a few simple precautions. In winter i keep a small jar of bio in the shed next to the car and on very cold mornings check it to see if it has gone cloudy it only did it one day last winter and it was -3 that morning . all i had to do was give the glow plugs 2 cycles and it started all be it a bit harder than normal then let it idle for a few mins b4 taking off.
If I know we are in for a cold burst of nights near 1 deg i put $5 of normal diesel in per tank of bio and have no starting problems at all.

Regarding fuel heater: Ryco make one, does not look much different to
the standard filter/water trap type.

About to do a blend of 25% WVO and dino diesel in my old ute and plan
to add the fuel heater.
neil.

[mr.damage]

Regarding fuel heater: Ryco make one, does not look much different to
the standard filter/water trap type.

About to do a blend of 25% WVO and dino diesel in my old ute and plan
to add the fuel heater.
neil.

Cool let us know how you go Neil.
Plus could you let us know where you found it and how much.

[Subaru Gal]

An interseting letter to the editor on the weekend suggested that:

"If we as a society, suddenly stopped buying brand X indefinately, then brand X executives would have to reconsider their prices because no one was purchasing any fuel from them. Then, until such time they reduced their prices, they would slowly go broke. Once brand X reduced it's prices to attract customers back we would all then use brand X therefore forcing brands Y and Z to also reduce their prices to be competative".

Who knows. It would take some co-ordinating and promoting on a national basis. Any volunteers?

Hi There Travellers,
Hope I have done this right, sorry if I have not, I am new to your forum.

This boycotting of BP Australia is already happening, boycotting BP NZ too.

Apparently, BP is the biggest up driver company. The talk is of course that if we boycott BP for long enough, they will be forced to lower their prices, in the attempt to get customers back. By lowering their prices, other gas stations will follow suit to stay in business.

I would like to add, that we do not wish to hurt independanty owned BP's. Therefor there is no need to boycott some BP's.

Generally BP owned sites are called 'Connect', or 'Express', independents are called BP-2Go or BP-Shop. Have a look at the glaringly obvious signage on the building or the towers outside the station. They will tell you.

I for one stopped buying from BP a few weeks ago, as did my husband who spends over $500 a month on fuel just to get to & from work.
Blue Mt to Wetherill Park.

Can it really work? Who knows, guess we will never know until we try. Trying sure beats sitting around just b*tching about it all.

Anyway, I still believe it is worth a try, i'm happy to boycott BP Aus for as long as it takes, unless someone can prove to me it will make no difference.


Have a great day travellers!

[Logzy]

Hi There Travellers,
Hope I have done this right, sorry if I have not, I am new to your forum.

This boycotting of BP Australia is already happening, boycotting BP NZ too.

Apparently, BP is the biggest up driver company. The talk is of course that if we boycott BP for long enough, they will be forced to lower their prices, in the attempt to get customers back. By lowering their prices, other gas stations will follow suit to stay in business.

I would like to add, that we do not wish to hurt independanty owned BP's. Therefor there is no need to boycott some BP's.

Generally BP owned sites are called 'Connect', or 'Express', independents are called BP-2Go or BP-Shop. Have a look at the glaringly obvious signage on the building or the towers outside the station. They will tell you.

I for one stopped buying from BP a few weeks ago, as did my husband who spends over $500 a month on fuel just to get to & from work.
Blue Mt to Wetherill Park.

Can it really work? Who knows, guess we will never know until we try. Trying sure beats sitting around just b*tching about it all.

Anyway, I still believe it is worth a try, i'm happy to boycott BP Aus for as long as it takes, unless someone can prove to me it will make no difference.


Have a great day travellers!

Sorry but as good as it sounds I wont be boycotting BP as they are the only ones that have the 10ppm Diesel.
Good luck in your quest though, maybe in 10 years you will be able to buy BP fuel again if all goes to plan.

[cetane]

G'day and welcome to our forum, Subi Gal!

I reckon that there'll be a few diesel drivers who won't move away from BP Ultimate because of the perceived quality benefit. (I'm not one of them

Going elsewhere to buy your fuel is fine as long as everybody does it and it would mean a LOT of people would have to do it before BP would feel an impact on their profits. I agree wholeheartedly with you when it comes to supporting the independents. Poor b*s*rds are being squeezed out by corporate predators and the duopoly of the big two supermarkets are the worst.

IMHO the only way to reduce the price disparity between diesel and unleaded is to increase refining capacity. If the demand for diesel is rising as fast as it is, then the oil companies must produce more of it. It doesn't really matter either way to them as the profit would be the same, it's the speculators that are cashing in on demand being greater than supply.

Trouble is that the oil companies are reluctant to spend on refining infrastructure as they know that oil supply has peaked..... so why invest money in processing plant for something that's going to run out before the life expectancy of the hardware?

[STV4SYT]

It must be working, there was a Queue at the BP i drove past this morning.

[Greg Roles]

Hey c'mon you big meanies, it's a GREAT post if you read it....

I will be bypassing the BP OWNED sites, and finding the BP independants.....

THANKS for the tip Subie Gal.

[Passatwind]

C'mon, it is BS. BP is no worse than any of the other majors. Maybe it is a Shell plot. There are bigger things at stake, like the future of the planet.

[neil]

C'mon, it is BS. BP is no worse than any of the other majors. Maybe it is a Shell plot. There are bigger things at stake, like the future of the planet.

Yeah I thought it might be the opposition starting the campain.
I use only BP and he is an independent, and always 5 cents cheaper,
problem is the servo has just been demolished for a new one.
Does anyone know if the Normanhurst BP is still going to be Independent or
will it be taken over by BP as there seems to be heaps being spent on the new servo.

[neil]

Cool let us know how you go Neil.
Plus could you let us know where you found it and how much.

My apologizes Mr Damage.
I meant racor and not ryco filters.
Shop around big price differences in the racor product.
See link re racor:
http://www.parker.com/portal/site/PA...ER%20SEPARATOR