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[Jaymz]

Okay, now I'm interested in the Superchip. It seems that this might be a bit cheaper whilst still giving good results. The Oettinger option is around $2000 which is a bit pricey for me.

Who should I contact in Australia to get this done ????

Oettinger make a good product but from my understanding are not worldly known for there Diesel tuning.
Peter is the Australasian agent but has an agent in Perth. You can contact him through his web here. Tell him you were talking to me.

their car blew up multiple times during the race though

Don't scare the kiddies Mischa, you know how sensitive they are

Here's another snip from their web:

What does the SUPERCHIPS warranty offer?

Your vehicle is warranted for life against engine only defects caused by the upgrade whilst it is in New Zealand or Australia, or until you no longer own it.

[Logzy]

What does the SUPERCHIPS warranty offer?

Your vehicle is warranted for life against engine only defects caused by the upgrade whilst it is in New Zealand or Australia, or until you no longer own it.

Not anymore its not.!!!
From what ive been reading on MKVForums this is no longer the case.
All info regarding this has been removed form the Bluefin/Superchips website.

[orsegtsport]

Okay, now I'm interested in the Superchip. It seems that this might be a bit cheaper whilst still giving good results. The Oettinger option is around $2000 which is a bit pricey for me.

Who should I contact in Australia to get this done ????

You can buy the Bluefin flash tuner straight from the Superchips UK website, and have it delivered to your doorstep for approx $960. This is arguably the best tuning product out there, because it allows you to easily return to the stock ecu calibration whenever you like, and that price is half what the likes of Oettinger charge for their tune.

The only thing holding me back is that I have a DSG gearbox and I've become a victim of all the scaremongering (probably instigated by VW themselves to deter people from 'chipping' their cars) out there suggesting that the box can't handle any more than about 380 Nm. The Superchips tune for the GT TDI produces 430Nm (and it seems there is only one tune available on the Bluefin), so I'm obviously a bit concerned about it being too much for the gearbox.

Unfortunately, when I contacted Superchips with my concerns, I got a very generic response that sounded like it came from someone in the PR department, not someone with technical knowledge of the product.

So although I've been assured that their product is "designed to operate within safe tolerances so as not to compromise vehicle reliability", I'm still not convinced. Why would the likes of Oettinger and Tunit offer a map with much less torque for the DSG models if there wasn't an issue? Damn it, I love the DSG, but this torque issue is a real pain in the proverbial.

[Roobuls]

My Golf is also DSG but because it's only a 103kW, I don't think I can go over the maximum this gearbox can handle. Please let me know if I am wrong in saying this?

I'm not trying to build a mechanical beast that I plan to thrash the box off of and leave a large portion of my tyres at every traffic light. I'm just interested in getting that little bit more oomph out of it for those moments that I might need it (overtaking occasional slow triple trailer semi's on short straights, etc.).

I've read that adding chips only handles part of the system, whereas re-programming would be more complete and therefore healthier. Does the Bluefin handle more than just the amount of fuel through those injectors ?

[Logzy]

You can buy the Bluefin flash tuner straight from the Superchips UK website, and have it delivered to your doorstep for approx $960. This is arguably the best tuning product out there, because it allows you to easily return to the stock ecu calibration whenever you like, and that price is half what the likes of Oettinger charge for their tune.

The only thing holding me back is that I have a DSG gearbox and I've become a victim of all the scaremongering (probably instigated by VW themselves to deter people from 'chipping' their cars) out there suggesting that the box can't handle any more than about 380 Nm. The Superchips tune for the GT TDI produces 430Nm (and it seems there is only one tune available on the Bluefin), so I'm obviously a bit concerned about it being too much for the gearbox.

Unfortunately, when I contacted Superchips with my concerns, I got a very generic response that sounded like it came from someone in the PR department, not someone with technical knowledge of the product.

So although I've been assured that their product is "designed to operate within safe tolerances so as not to compromise vehicle reliability", I'm still not convinced. Why would the likes of Oettinger and Tunit offer a map with much less torque for the DSG models if there wasn't an issue? Damn it, I love the DSG, but this torque issue is a real pain in the proverbial.

Im in exactly the same boat as you.
Even contacting them resulted in a useless response.
To Gerards credit he was able to get hold of a torque curve for the 125kw TDI DSG. The touque is limited to 402nm which is still a concern as other tuners are limiting to 380nm for the DSG.
I asked why the 402 and how they decided this was a safe limit and just got the warranty type response regarding the engine being covered however this still does not answer us regarding the DSG.
I am also a bit suspect on the graph i was given and whether it was real or just drawn up.
The reason for this is that superchips first said that when they get a 125kw TDI DSG in their shop then they will do a dyno run then a day later the graph showed up.
I wonder whether this was just produced for marketing and was not really a proper dyno run result.
The superchips graphs dont look like your normal type dyno sheets anyway.
Dont get me wrong, I'm not bagging them here but i just want to be 100% satisfied that my car wont fail somewhere down the line.
At the moment i havent convinced myself of this and I also think it would be a real s h i t fight trying to make a claim on them of something did fail.
Another point is that the info on the cover is no longer on their website. (I cant find it anway.)
Having said all this, I am still considering it as i like the idea of it. I'm not considering any other tune

I also am having trouble getting a price off their website or adding a product to the basket, I was trying to have a play.

Is ordering online not available at the moment.?

[orsegtsport]

Good man Logzy, it looks you're the 'guinea pig' I've been waiting for! Seriously though, I've been hoping someone else with a DSG GT TDI would take the plunge, so I didn't have to be the first.

Yes it's very frustrating not being able to get a definitive answer regarding the DSG. I really want one of the Superchips Engineers to confirm that extensive testing was performed on a DSG model, not have some customer support (and I use the term loosely) person spin me some standard marketing line about their products not compromising vehicle reliability.

I was just reading the thread over at the golfmkv forum, and blimey, is it that time of the month or something? Some of those guys need to go back to bed and try to get out of the right side this time! I totally agree with your post, and as a consumer you have every right to shop around for the best deal.

Anyway, one thing all the 'experts' over there failed to realise when estimating prices for buying the Bluefin online, is that you don't pay VAT, which means the price is actually 17.5% cheaper than that listed on the website. I was quoted £444.68 inc shipping when I enquired. And, you don't pay GST or import taxes either - if it's under a grand, it comes straight to your door without Customs getting involved.

I'm not sure what's wrong with the website, maybe you could email one of their very 'helpful' staff?

The only real advantage of buying locally is product support, but really, what can go wrong? Any software issues should easily be sorted over the internet, and you'd have to be seriously unlucky to get a defective handset (geez, I'm tempting fate making comments like that). Anyway, I'll save $400 and buy it from the UK thanks.

[orsegtsport]

My Golf is also DSG but because it's only a 1.9, I don't think I can go over the maximum this gearbox can handle. Please let me know if I am wrong in saying this?

I'm not trying to build a mechanical beast that I plan to thrash the box off of and leave a large portion of my tyres at every traffic light. I'm just interested in getting that little bit more oomph out of it for those moments that I might need it (overtaking occasional slow triple trailer semi's on short straights, etc.).

I've read that adding chips only handles part of the system, whereas re-programming would be more complete and therefore healthier. Does the Bluefin handle more than just the amount of fuel through those injectors ?

Yes, you won't have any worries, the bluefin will 'only' take your car to 305 Nm:

http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/apps.php

Yes if you believe their spiel, they don't just increase boost or fuel intake, they produce an entirely new 'map' and many different parameters are adjusted.

[Roobuls]

Yes, you won't have any worries, the bluefin will 'only' take your car to 305 Nm:

http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/apps.php

Yes if you believe their spiel, they don't just increase boost or fuel intake, they produce an entirely new 'map' and many different parameters are adjusted.

Thanks so much for that information. You have helped me make my decision and I am definetly going to order the bluefin.

It was interesting to read from that link that the bluefin will not only totally re-map your cars computer, but it can also be used as a diagnostic tool.

[Greg Roles]

Shyte, all you guys getting chips....I'm starting to cave....

[Jaymz]

Good man Logzy, it looks you're the 'guinea pig' I've been waiting for! Seriously though, I've been hoping someone else with a DSG GT TDI would take the plunge, so I didn't have to be the first.

Yes it's very frustrating not being able to get a definitive answer regarding the DSG. I really want one of the Superchips Engineers to confirm that extensive testing was performed on a DSG model, not have some customer support (and I use the term loosely) person spin me some standard marketing line about their products not compromising vehicle reliability.

The problem with giving a definitive answer is the unknown or human factor or should i say in some cases the idiot factor.
Picture someone driving it like they stole it, doing burn outs in it and putting undue masses of stress on it compared to the majority of us who want a streetably quick car that will spend most of its time as a comuter to and from work.
A world of difference between the two.

The weak link in the drive train is the clutch or in the DSG's case, clutches. Clutches are designed to wear out and that is the nature of the beast, so thats why you will never get a definitive answer.

Have a look here at the VW racing Jetta TDI series, they use the DSG. Wouldn't it be better following this series to hear of any inherit problems rather than reading some of the BS that goes on on websites?
Just a thought?

Hang on, i've just had another thought, trade it in and get a manual!!!