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R34 VW Dealers!!! 23-02-2010, 10:41 PM
HASH Colour..options..fill us in... 24-02-2010, 09:40 AM
team_v Makes my 4 month wait sound a... 24-02-2010, 09:48 AM
R34 I've ordered a White Sedan... 24-02-2010, 02:53 PM
Rocket36 Why adaptive suspension? Just... 24-02-2010, 03:12 PM
team_v I was thinking the same thing... 24-02-2010, 03:15 PM
Leagle Congrats R34! Sounds like you... 25-02-2010, 10:04 AM
zsolt_downunder Adaptive Suspension R36 vs... 25-02-2010, 10:41 AM
R34 Thanks for the welcome mate... 25-02-2010, 10:45 AM
Rocket36 Couldn't agree more! At the... 25-02-2010, 10:49 AM
R34 My dealer kindly let me test... 10-03-2010, 10:04 PM
evr Adaptive Suspension on R36,... 10-03-2010, 10:32 PM
R34 I didn't find the std R36... 10-03-2010, 10:56 PM
evr I hear what you're saying. ... 10-03-2010, 11:11 PM
nivek I test drove a CC with ACC... 11-03-2010, 12:40 AM
R34 Yes I experienced that too... 11-03-2010, 08:59 AM
Rocket36 Based on the back to back... 11-03-2010, 10:34 AM
R34 Just read this in another... 11-03-2010, 02:50 PM
Rocket36 This is purely speculation,... 11-03-2010, 03:10 PM
R34 The CC I drove immediately... 11-03-2010, 08:49 PM
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  1. #1
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    I test drove a CC with ACC and R36 (in wagon trim) with "fixed" suspension back to back before deciding on the R36 sedan.

    To me, there was more body roll on the CC, whereas the R36 was flatter and gave me more confidence going around a corner. I also thought the turn in of the R36 was better, though I'm not sure if that is possible as the wagon is heavier.
    Black/Grey MY10 R36 Sedan

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    Yes I experienced that too
    The R36 would have thicker swaybars than the CC I would assume

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    Based on the back to back driving I did, which also made me decide on the R36 over the CC, I would say the ACC uses completely different springs, shocks and sway bars. But it wouldn't surprise me if the bushes are also different too.

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    Just read this in another thread re a GTi with ACC.
    I'd imagine it to be similar for a R36 std V's R36 ACC.
    Until someone drives a R36 with and without ACC we'll never know for sure.
    I think the CC has a suspension tune comparible with the Highline Passat.
    I don't believe VW would change bushes and Swaybars from the std R36 otherwise it won't be a R36 anymore.

    The Motor Report posted up a review of the Golf 6 with a DSG Box and Adapative Chassis Control.

    They have tested a GTI with and without ACC, so it seems good for people who want to compare:

    http://www.themotorreport.com.au/499...ad-test-review

    "There are two suspensions offered for the GTI – a conventional coil-and-damper arrangement or a similar system with electronically adjustable dampers.

    The standard set-up is a bit stiff for regular road use, but the optional Adaptive Chassis Control offers three settings: Normal, Comfort or Sport.

    Normal mode is close to the standard non-adjustable suspension tune, but Comfort is softer, less jarring and easier to live with over pockmarked roads.

    Indeed, Comfort is perhaps the better mode for a serious backroads blast, the more compliant tune soaking up bumps that would otherwise unsettle a more stiffly-damped car.

    Sport, on the other hand, tightens the chassis to a degree that’s suitable for the occasional trackday sprint. However, we don’t recommend it for your daily commute.

    On more sedate drives, the GTI’s ride can be a problem. It’s hard - not spine-breakingly so, but hard nonetheless – and unless you opt for the Adaptive Chassis Control system there’s not a lot that can be done about it.

    Options like the 18-inch alloys and Adaptive Chassis Control bump up the retail price by $1200 and $1500 respectively, and in our opinion the variable damper technology is a box that should be ticked."

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    This is purely speculation, but while I think the ideas behind ACC for the MkVI Golf and the current CC & R36, I think the MkVI Golf setup is more advanced. It's the part about "electronically adjustable sampers" that makes me think this. It sounds quite similar to magnetic ride control that a lot of manufacturers are adopting but I specifically ased when I was test driving the CC if it was the same and was told it is not as advanced as that. That is of course when the CC had just come out so it may be a different system in use now.

    If I had the option of leaving the springs (or even slightly lower ones) in the R36 but having a proper magnetic ride control system instead of what the R36 has now, I'd DEFINITELY choose the MRC. As they say about the MkVI Golf, the sport mode ends up being stiffer again! WELL WORTH it for track days or really spirited driving.

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    The CC I drove immediately stiffened up when needed while in normal mode

    This is what VW have to say about ACC damper control
    Not magnetic but similar result
    [I]How it Works
    To guarantee that the car can always adapt to the driving conditions, the DCC adaptive chassis control features electric adjustable dampers. Each individual shock absorber is connected to a control device which calculates the optimum setting for each individual wheel from the sensor data and other system information (e.g. steering, braking and driving assist systems) it receives. This allows the system to react within milliseconds to bumps in the road, changing lanes or bendy roads.[/I]
    Last edited by R34; 11-03-2010 at 09:33 PM.

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