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Thread: Volkswagen doesn't swap signal/wiper levers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Every European car I have driven has had the left hand turn signals. BMW, Merc, Audi, VW, Skoda, even a Opel built Holden Astra.

    Happy Days.

    Heh, something new learned. Certainly makes sense. Never understood why it seemed swapped here and just thought it was "one of those things".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
    No change to manual transmissions. No need to.

    So, it's 10 o'clock = first, 2 o'clock = second, 4 o'clock = third and so on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
    I wouldn't stress too much about it. It's not like anybody uses their indicator these days anyway...
    Ain't dat da troof! Might as well make THOSE optional equipment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marakai View Post
    So, it's 10 o'clock = first, 2 o'clock = second, 4 o'clock = third and so on?
    As the manufacturer intended it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marakai View Post
    Do people who drive a VW as well as a non-VW car put little reminder stickers on their steering wheels? Or do you have your service centre swap the levers (and now all the labels and buttons are upside-down!)
    We have a Subaru & the Skoda. Swap reasonably well between the two. I find the "Euro" setup to be more natural & safer of the two eg: you keep the right hand on the wheel & the left is used for changing gears & indicating, flashing high beams etc. Occasionally I stuff it up whem I'm in the Subaru - don't people know that spraying the windscreen with water means you want to pass?

    The Belgium built Mondeo we had before the Subaru was also Euro pattern as was our 98 Golf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marakai View Post
    So, it's 10 o'clock = first, 2 o'clock = second, 4 o'clock = third and so on?
    There is no standard layout for a manual transmission (and your pattern sounds bizarre)

    A VW 6 speed would be 10 oclock, 8 oclock, 12 oclock, 6 oclock, 2 oclock, 4 oclock, R is push down, left & up
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    I find I muck it up more in our two Japanese cars, than I do in my Polo.

    Same goes for selecting reverse.
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    On automatic transmissions, the selector pattern was part of an ADR, however I understand as it has now become industry standard the ADR has been withdrawn.

    P R N D

    After D, you can have additional forward gear options.

    To go from Drive to Reverse, you must go through Neutral, and Park cannot be adjacent to Neutral or any forward gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
    As the manufacturer intended it.
    Hehe, yeah, was just trying to imagine what would happen if they'd gone by some "first and second are closest to driver, then 3/4, then 5/6 - and who the hell knows where reverse is". Sooooo many engine parts coming loose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    There is no standard layout for a manual transmission (and your pattern sounds bizarre)

    A VW 6 speed would be 10 oclock, 8 oclock, 12 oclock, 6 oclock, 2 oclock, 4 oclock, R is push down, left & up

    Argh, that's because I was half-way out of the door when I wrote it. Re-reading it, I myself went WTF? Not even my very first car, a Citroen 2 CV was that screwed up. I now haven't the slightest idea what I was visualising when I typed that in! Good lord!

    Of course, it's as you said and my curiosity was about whether it would be mirrored to reflect some concept based on driver proximity - so 2 o'clock, 4 o'clock, noon, 6, 10, 8 and R push-down and RIGHT & up.

    PS: just remembered what the 2CV actually had and something in my hindbrain must have linked to that: 8 o'clock, noon, 6 o'clock, 2 o'clock - and reverse was hard far-shift to right then up. Really!

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