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    unflawed review of alltrack vs Subaru

    Drive - Volkswagen Passat Alltrack | Subaru Outback Diesel Review

    A 4-1 win to the Alltrack.
    "A powered tailgate will win fans at Westfield but the car loses marks with serious drivers for having a space-saver spare wheel."

    The "space saver" spare wheel remark might put people off but when you look at it, it doesn't look anything like the skinny space savers we all know and hate. It looks like a pretty hardy and wide tire fitted to a steel rim of lesser diameter
    a 215/55 ZR16 97W bridgestone Turanza (rated for 270kmh according to mytyres.co.uk)
    (that said, the overall diameter will be very slightly less than the stock tire?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc863 View Post
    The "space saver" spare wheel remark might put people off but when you look at it, it doesn't look anything like the skinny space savers we all know and hate. It looks like a pretty hardy and wide tire fitted to a steel rim of lesser diameter
    a 215/55 ZR16 97W bridgestone Turanza (rated for 270kmh according to mytyres.co.uk)
    (that said, the overall diameter will be very slightly less than the stock tire?).
    +1.36% rolling diameter difference between stock and spare tyres

    Tire Size Calculator - Tire & Wheel Plus Sizing

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    yeah. That's not too bad, right?
    I wonder if a 100% stock tire on a rim would fit in that space. Must be close..

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    Heh, I assume the "nyc" in the first comment is you?

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    yeah. I would be put off, reading space saver..

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    Thanks for confirming that spacesaver issue - so, just like the Scout then. No concern whatsoever then in the backblocks.
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    By the way has anyone noticed that the Alltrack price is the almost the same as the UK price when converted?

    An australian car without sports pack or panorama costs 53,265 drive away.. including the easily diminished 3k dealer delivery fee.
    A UK car needs quite a number of options (RNS510, rear cargo net, heated seats, park assist, leather, tailgate etc etc) to be the same car. And at that stage comes to:

    34790 British Pound Sterling equals
    51418 Australian Dollar

    I've not done a definitive survey but this must be the closest ever an Australian retail price euro car has come to its price in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc863 View Post
    By the way has anyone noticed that the Alltrack price is the almost the same as the UK price when converted?

    An australian car without sports pack or panorama costs 53,265 drive away.. including the easily diminished 3k dealer delivery fee.
    A UK car needs quite a number of options (RNS510, rear cargo net, heated seats, park assist, leather, tailgate etc etc) to be the same car. And at that stage comes to:

    34790 British Pound Sterling equals
    51418 Australian Dollar

    I've not done a definitive survey but this must be the closest ever an Australian retail price euro car has come to its price in the UK.
    What personally shocked me even more was when I saw the German prices! Thanks to the weak Euro, compared to the Aussie, the Alltrack is significantly cheaper here than if you took the German price for an identical configuration and converted it.

    Just look at the price of the base model for the AWD DSG model (*), 40K Euro (roughly $52K), with fewer options than a base model here, which starts at $47K. That said, 19% VAT in Germany isn't helping compared to 10% GST.

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    the uk reviews often end up with, nice car but tough to choose over the soft roaders like the evoque or x3, it is hard to justify the price.

    well, yes, give me a non poverty spec x3 or evoque, and I also would hesitate!

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    I think I would - in terms of real estate, how can you compare a Passat wagon to a titchy evoque or X3? Maybe if you only use the front seats....
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