Resale on the Passat - any experience?

[VAG newbie]

Mazda definitely didn't budge on the $51,000 RRP with the top spec petrol Mazda6 Atenza. You're absolutely right about the importance of the changeover price. They initially wanted a changeover of $24,500 and after a lot of haggling where I cited I'd pursue a private sale of my Passat that would offer a better monetary return, the dealer principal actually walked over to me, sat down and made a final offer with a changeover price of $21,000. He even wanted me to sign a sale contract for the Mazda and adjust accordingly depending on what I did with the Passat. I absolutely refused as I said to them from the start that I wasn't willing to go above a $20,000 changeover and that I owed it to myself to see how much I could get for my Passat via private sale. Besides, as good as the new Mazda6 is, it's not necessarily better than either the Passat or Superb. It really boils down to a different design aesthetic and driving experience when comparing German and Japanese cars.

I'm afraid I'm not eligible for a corporate or fleet discount, but it'll be very interesting to see how I go later this week with VW as I want to check out the CC very carefully.

I believe there is a new Superb on the way, so let's hope Volkswagen Australia do the right thing with such a fine car.

The Mazda6 will be hard to bargain at this stage as it is relatively new. I'm also looking at getting one for my wife's next car. Most likely the Atenza wagon diesel. Even with fleet discount, I could only get $2500 off. ie. $52500 for the red Atenza diesel wagon. My wife loved it, but I'm just waiting a bit for it to become more negotiable.

This means whatever the Mazda dealer offered you is the price that they think they can achieve by selling your Passat themselves rather than give it to a whole seller. If they weren't gonna give more, it probably means they have no faith to sell your car for more than $30,000, and they might risk losing money. This should give you some idea.

I doubt VW can offer you more. Anything more simply means VW is more negotiable in new car price. You should be able to get a very good deal on a stock car (but beware, it will be 2012 built), but not a lot if you have to factory order.

Mazda6 is definitely a very good car. But at that price, personally I prefer the Passat wagon for being more spacious, my wife liked the Mazda6 as its more refined. Will see if the price will drop further.

IMO, the Passst, Superb and Mazda6 are the top 3 in the market for medium/large car class. Whatever you choose will always be a good choice.

Some additional points. Thought it might interest you. My leasing company was able to obtain a discount of $3671 on the petrol Atenza. This brings the GST excluded drive away price to $45869 (novated lease don't pay GST). You should be able to achieve a fleet discount using car broker.

[clip]

If you've sold recently I'd be interested in the sale price, km, and car spec.

I recently sold my 18month old B7 125TDI sedan with18000k's. Finally priced it at $33900 and it sold to first person who saw it, no negotiation, and had two other serious buyers lined up. Either too cheap or right on the money. It was in absolutely new cond though.

[Buzy_Robot]

VAGNewbie is right that a car broker would be the most cost effective way to get into a new car; however, I went the traditional route and put down a deposit for a MY13 125TDI Highline Sedan with the Sport Package at a Volkswagen dealer. After the Mazda dealer who tried to use high powered sales tactics on me, it was a huge relief to end up at Kevin Dennis Volkswagen in Deer Park, Victoria. Without any haggling whatsoever, the DP immediately offered me $30,000 for my current Passat, knocked off $2,500 from the RRP on the new Passat with Sport Package, threw in mud flaps, full tank of diesel and free vehicle inspection at 5,000ks.

I might also add the service department at Kevin Dennis Volkswagen correctly diagnosed a wheel alignment issue with toe-in on my current Passat that two independent tyre shops ignored and failed to rectify.

[bruster]

im reviving an old thread, but thought would be better than starting a new one.

have you guys experienced a low resale value since the Media reported faults with the DSG and its engines as a result of the car accident that killed a woman. Now i know the story, the accident was not due to any fault with the car it was simply an accident however im finding regardless of what the reasons were the damage has already been done.

Im selling my car now and trade ins are rediculous and private sales are not any better, and all messages i get through email or sms are crazy...all about the problems VW have and trying to reduce my price and hardly any enquires about the car. They go straight to the negatives based on what they have heard on the Media.

its very frustrating, because i found it to be a one of the best cars i have owned so far so i have nothing but praise but its hard to pass that on to buyers.

if you have sold your passat recently i would be keen to know what you have experienced, although the R36 is different all together.
im talking more about your bread and butter passats TSI TDI etc..

[johnboi]

I was looking at trading my 08 passat sedan 125tdi, sunroof, leather, bi xenons, 105kms with timing belt done an serviced (full VW books), 19" rims and new tyres, rns510 and was offered originally offered $11 - pushed them to $13, but the holden dealer didnt want it, wass going to wholesale it and said buyers were scared of the gearbox issues.

Just my story, didnt trade as its worth more than that to me

[bruster]

I was looking at trading my 08 passat sedan 125tdi, sunroof, leather, bi xenons, 105kms with timing belt done an serviced (full VW books), 19" rims and new tyres, rns510 and was offered originally offered $11 - pushed them to $13, but the holden dealer didnt want it, wass going to wholesale it and said buyers were scared of the gearbox issues.

Just my story, didnt trade as its worth more than that to me

my thoughts exactly, i was offered $18,000 for 2011 1.8l turbo TSI wagon with 43,000 kms.
i laughed at the guy and said no deal, but he doesnt stop calling me
he doesnt quite understand NO DEAL.

i might just keep it for a while longer if i have no luck in the coming weeks.

[OilBurna]

Far out mine is 07 103kw wagon only sunroof and leather only done 82000 think I will be keeping for a while surely do much better on private sale


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[Darks RS]

R36's are in the 18-20k range for trade. wanted to suss out trading for a small car for my missus.. at that price didn't want to downgrade.

To the guy wanting an Atenza Mazda 6, don't bother. Owned one for 4 months and sold it. bought it brand spankers and it was a dog of a car. Made me regret trading my CC for it.
Funny that at the time, an 09 CC was pulling mid 20's for trade, whilst a highline Passat sedan diesel would have pulled early 30s in a trade.
Loved getting back into VAG after the Mazda, so easy and no worries of new tech.

[Buzy_Robot]

Crikey mate - selling a top spec Mazda6 after 4 months?! Sure it wasn't a lemon?! What exactly didn't you like about it. I'm most curious to know.

I actually didn't bother with a Mazda6 in the end as per previous posts, was not happy with the inflexibility of Mazda dealers who are intent on exploiting their lucrative Australian market. (They sure ain't doing this well anywhere else in the world!) Much happier with VW dealers. Just over a year since I traded in the MY11 TDI Passat for my current MY13 TDI with Sports Pack and my only gripe is an annoying rattle emanating from the ignition barrel. Mentioned this at its first major service and not only will it be fixed in a few weeks, but they also brought up the need for some lubricant to be added to the steering wheel.

But seriously, shame about the Mazda6, Dark RS. I had a second gen one a few years back which was a treat to drive and it did what it did really well given it was relatively low tech.

I'm actually hanging out for the B8 Passat. Should be previewed overseas in September and perhaps we'll see it on Australian shores April/May 2015?

Resale value? Not all VW vehicles are unreliable or death traps. This is pure sensationalist nonsense and it's really unethical of car dealers to use this as an excuse to low ball the value of VW cars and exploit the seller. A lot of car manufacturers have problems. To be sure, VW handled the PR side badly and should have responded with alacrity to customer complaints, but there seems to me to be a class subtext at work in all this VW bashing. Going private and selling to a VW aficionado is one's best bet. If private sale isn't one's thing, trade-in at a VW dealer for another VW!

[OilBurna]

Or keep longer mine is one year our of extended warranty and due shortly for a timing belt change. Looking at the 2nd hand prices just going to keep mine until it becomes uneconomic. Touch wood have had no issues since out of warranty and what else can you get for the same price with that level of equipment and safety?


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