R36 Wagon - 20" x 9.5 +29 offset BBS CK

[Highlander]

not performance driving (like Rocket never does in his performance car), y.

Stranger things have happened but I am springing to Rocket's Defence.

You must have missed Rocket's laps in the R36 at the Marulan Driver Training Centre.

And lapping MDTC or Wakefield is lots more fun than driving the long way home just so you can look at your car's reflection in the shop windows.

Actually I have often wondered why we are so obsessed with the outside appearance of our vehicles (and I am as guilty as anyone in having bought a CC which I literally fell in love with at first sight). Around $10k more than a similarly specified Passat sedan just for looks?. I have never driven a Passat sedan but I can't imagine that the CC and the sedan (mine is a TDI turtle) drive all that differently. I have even been guilty of taking photographs of it.

Perhaps we need a poll. When does your car give you the most satisfaction?

(a) When it's standing still, you are not in it, standing outside and looking at it or

(b) when your in the driver's seat lucky to see 5% of the outside of your car.

Just another thought. Do "stretched" tyres perform better, worse or the same as a more conventionally mounted tyre. My gut feeling says probably worse and if it is it's really a no brainer modification (in my opinion).

[Rocket36]

MDTC, Wakefield and Eastern Creek... There is no better satisfaction than driving a car the way it's MEANT to be driven!

[schoona]

Sorry, you are both turkeys if you think he is buying >>>>>20" x 9.5"<<<<< BBS CK's as track wheels....in half an hour he can swap over the standard 18s with normal rubber and run just the same times as Rocket.

Then R34 talks about compromise. If the R36 was no compromise it would look like an Aston Martin, go like the veyron and handle like an Elise...all for <70k

You lot are amusing.

[Umai Naa!!]

The idea behind stretch-fitting tyres was to improve feel, and remove side-wall flex. It's a concept that been around since Adam and Eve found the Holy Man's porn stash behind the apple tree.

[Umai Naa!!]

Sorry, you are both turkeys if you think he is buying >>>>>20" x 9.5"<<<<< BBS CK's as track wheels....in half an hour he can swap till the standard 18s with normal rubber and run just the same times as Rocket.

Then R34 talks about compromise. If the R36 was no compromise it would look like an Aston Martin, go like the veyron and handle like an Elise...all for <70k

You lot are amusing.

I see your point, and raise it with a scratch-resistant candy-apple paint job!

[schoona]

Bahaha

besides, if a drift car can stretch tyres (do you really think you and your R36 hit the same lateral G's as an S15 banked sideways at 160kmh?) can handle a bit of stretched rubber...im sure for non-spirited street driving it really won't hurt. Even if only to look good

[R34]

The trouble I have is that the OP (a newbie) asks for advice and a few guys go "yeah man it's wicked buy them and fit them" with NFI of what's involved fitting non standard wheels to a R36.
No care no responsibility from you guys if he buys the wheels and finds out his car is undriveable. Then you'd all run for cover.
My wheels poke out 12mm more than stock and the rears rub on mid corner bumps at the rear with std ride height and 235 tyres yet you advise the OP to go for wheels that poke a further 21mm than that and fit stretched tyres. Even with stretched 235 tyres it will rub on the panel and bend the guards on the first decent bump.
Sure it looks good but if it was doable and driveable I would have done it.

[Rocket36]

LOL!!! People actually think getting rid of side wall flex is a good thing? Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! OK

[Umai Naa!!]

Well, not with that attitude.

We're not talking Forumla 1 cars here.

[Highlander]

Why not just go for solid rubber tyres and get rid of that dreaded sidewall flex altogether?

I actually asked a question about whether stretching tyres provided improved handling or otherwise and was quite happy to receive a civil answer which was hardly forthcoming. I also think you are arguing against yourselves when you suggest returning to more conventional wheel size and tyre fitment for track work yet suggest that the stretch provides less sidewall flex and better feel. Actually went trawling for a few Formula 1 pics of wheels tyres and they don't appear to be stretched.

I will be happy to be provided with some factual info which indicates that stretched tyre fitment provides better performance than more conventional fitment. IMO it's just a look at thing and simply a matter of taste and until proven otherwise have to agree with R34 that it seems somewhat ridiculous to compromise a vehicle's handling and drivability for the sake of appearance.

Suppose it depends if you want to drive your car or just shine it up and park it in Hungry Jacks, Maccas or KFC car parks.

If I was younger and less polite and reserved than Maverick, I could perhaps only hazard a guess at what you are feeling for that improved feel when good driving technique suggests that you should be keeping both hands on the wheel.