Joining the queue of Passat owners with injector problems (TDI wagon carked it)

[kaanage]

Why do you say less likely, Greg?
I'd be thinking that there are simply more 125kW PD Passats than Golf V GTs on the roads.

[icabodfestus]

This sounds eerily similar to our experience. On Sunday (two days ago), we were driving along a freeway, when our car lost all power, and we had to cut across four lanes as we dodged other cars, with the diesel engine "coil" warning also illuminating.

We have a 2007 Passat which we bought privately ONE WEEK ago. It has done 104,000 and is now four years old, and from my understanding, we have no recourse. We have had it assessed and discovered - lo and behold - that it is injector number three that has "an electrical fault" and we are now being advised to replace all of them.

Unfortunately, unlike the majority of people in this thread, we have no cover from warrantee, and the quote for one has come in at $1800, and for all four at $4700.

Do we do all of them?

Do we do the wiring loom too? (by the looks of this thread, yes)

Do we have a case to present to VW Australia, given that there are a frightening number of people with the same problem, and that this is a fault that seems to be inherent in the design?

Do we cut our losses, fix one, sell it, and buy a more reliable, less expensive, Japanese car...

[icabodfestus]

An update...

I got some advise from a friend who works for customer relations at a large car company. He said that if you approach them, even though your car is out of warranty by a year, because it has only had one owner before, and a full VW service history, they may offer something under good will.

Today, there was approval for 70% of the payment from VW Australia, for replacement of all four injectors, and the wiring loom.

Take home message: If you have this problem, even if it doesn't seem like you'll get anywhere, go to VW Australia. But do it through your dealer, they prefer to speak to them rather than directly to you.

[barrenjoey owl]

An update...

I got some advise from a friend who works for customer relations at a large car company. He said that if you approach them, even though your car is out of warranty by a year, because it has only had one owner before, and a full VW service history, they may offer something under good wil

Today, there was approval for 70% of the payment from VW Australia, for replacement of all four injectors, and the wiring loom.

Take home message: If you have this problem, even if it doesn't seem like you'll get anywhere, go to VW Australia. But do it through your dealer, they prefer to speak to them rather than directly to you.

Well done VWA amd you.

[Jmac]

Ive done a few on the BKP motors, in fact more so than the rest. Out of all the passats ive worked on( LOTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSS) ive only done a handful. In fact im in the market to buy a PD Passat , but suppose the labour cost will be saved, oh and full retail
Just to clarify guys so far its only the PD unit injectors, not Common rail.
Cheers
Jmac

[ope126]

Ive done a few on the BKP motors, in fact more so than the rest. Out of all the passats ive worked on( LOTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSS) ive only done a handful. In fact im in the market to buy a PD Passat , but suppose the labour cost will be saved, oh and full retail
Just to clarify guys so far its only the PD unit injectors, not Common rail.
Cheers
Jmac

Thankfully I have a Common Rail Diesel (CR)...Engine Code CBBB.

Maybe to save any future confusion with people viewing these pages for the first time; anyone with problem engines could possibly add the Engine Code and the fact that it is a Pump Duse Diesel (PD) engine.

Possible PD Engine Codes include the following;
- 103kw (Golf, Jetta, Passat) (BKP, BMA, BMP)
- 125kw (Golf GT, Passat) (BMR, BUZ, BWV) and obviously other vehicles in the VAG range.

If any of the above info is incorrect, please amend as required.

I truly hope all affected get rectified ASAP!!!

[Greg Roles]

Well hate to pop the CR bubble, but it seems your High Pressure Fuel Pump is starting to fail left and right in the USA, hop on TDIclub and read the tales of woe. At least you guys can run good fuel and use lubricating additives, not much you can do about insulation in injectors that fail.

[WestOiler125]

True to form, my Passat is now officially dead. Backed out of drive, went to put in D, it died in the middle of the road. Will now crank but not fire....off to the nearest dealer tomorrow, lets hope its a full injector replacement!

John Hughes' VW in Perth, know all about this issue, said they would replace all 4i injectors and wiring loom...thank God! The service advisor told me that these seem to always go at around 60K.
Will also fix the broken electric handbrake (also died this month) and do 60K service $250 cheaper than my usual dealer. Let's be hopeful that they keep their word on this!

[gravitron]

Another TDI fail tale: engine cut out without warning, flashing coil light and MDI service warning. Luckily I managed to roll into a side street before coming to a complete halt. Roadside unable to help, towed to Gerald Slaven in Belconnen Canberra. They had the car for 2 full days, and told me it was a flat battery (WTF!?) - despite the fact I told them I operated lights, radio, and the ignition for hours after the breakdown. Drove the car home. Next morning would not start and the coil light + MDI service warning were back on. Thank you Gerald Slaven.

I've only had the car 1 month. It has VW warranty until April and lease co warranty after that, so I was not immediately concerned about cost but definitely spooked and wondering if the car was a lemon. Fortunately this forum has given me the info that Gerald Slaven failed to provide. The car just clocked 60k, so its age + symptoms strongly suggest injectors to be the fault. I'll get it towed to Lennock in Phillip and request a full injector inspection/replacement. Really hoping I can get this issue sorted as I've been loving the ride.

[gravitron]

Update: The car was towed to Lennock late in the afternoon. They called me after lunch the following day with a full update - injectors need to be replaced. They said that there is an official VW notice describing the symptoms and correct way to diagnose and repair. Lennock have been incredibly professional and hope to have the car back by Friday/Monday. I have to wonder how Slaven could have ignored such an obvious and serious issue.