How much are the Options? Xenon and GPS in particular?

[kimmik]

I'm negotiating the 118TSI at the moment. They seem reluctant to discount the xenon and GPS optional extras... what's a reasonable price for these?

And whats a super good price for these?

They're asking for 2500 for the GPS and 2900 for the Xenon lights

is 2k and 2k possible?

[Buzy_Robot]

kimmik, my advice would be for you to negotiate on the best driveaway price for the car and options that interest you. Don't focus too much on the pricing of individual options, rather the overall price of the car with the desired options. Haggle for the best driveaway price.

[kimmik]

thanks for the advice, though i must say my situation is a bit different.

i already have a driveaway price of 38500 for the base car (corp+ discount and some haggling)

so if i want to get options, i need to know what they're actually worth

otherwise, the dealer will insist i pay 38500+2900+2500!

[Buzy_Robot]

Ahhh, sorry mate. I'm coming to it as a private customer. In this case, you're talking about $5,400 in options. Why don't you try and have the figure rounded to at least $5,000?

[kimmik]

yeah i can try something like that. probably low ball it first with say 42k, and see what happens. but ultimately, the best help i can get is to have an idea of what the dealer is willing to sell the options for.

[VAG newbie]

From my experience, there aren't that much room to haggle for the options. Most of the discount comes from the car itself.

Also the more option you want, the more likely this car will have to be specially ordered from Germany. Since the dealer don't have the car anyway, there is no incentive for them to give you discount, rather they would want you to take a stocked car in their car yard. So I think they would purposely keep the option price tough!

[kimmik]

interesting concept. makes sense, since its easier to sell a car either in stock with the dealer, or already in AU with the head office.

but assuming the dealer already has a car with the options installed, what option discount do you think they can give? 10%? 20%? 50%?

when you look at the AU option prices, compared to UK option prices, its roughly 1:1.5. e.g. a 1000pound option will cost $2500 here, (gps)

so if thats anything to go by, maybe 30% discount on options should be achievable? assuming they're in stock?

[VAG newbie]

I've just PM'd you with the price I got via car broker. I ordered those option too.

Anyway, the way to do that is you will need to ask them if they have any stocked car they want to get rid off, and it happens to have those options. If you are lucky, you may get one. But you may have to settle with demo though.

My colleague got a 118TSI recently through corporate discount too, but he couldn't even get to choose the color, as white and silver were the only available ones (brand new, that is). So you would have to be very lucky to find one, especially the GPS is not really a popular option....

[kimmik]

thanks champ pmed you back. i suspected the gps wouldn't be so popular, having read about ppl installing it themselves for less than 1k instead of 2.5k lol.

i'll just drop it from my request if no stock is around.

[VAG newbie]

Sorry, realize I haven't really answered your question.

I don't think you can achieve 30% discount on options if the car is brand new. GPS is $2600, 30% would be $780, that's crazy! They don't have that margin. If it's demo, then you may achieve that, but you are talking about a "used car"!

Think about it. Even with the corporate discount on the car it's just around 10-15%, and that's because VW Aus can supply the car with a lower price, and there are other costs that dealers can absorb (like the $3000 dealers delivery charge, AKA $3000 car wash), even that, you are not achieving 30%. There is no such margin in options, except maybe the dealer supplied protection pack, window tints......etc (where they charge you $2000 when you can get same thing done after market for 1/3 the price).

Realistically, if you can knock a couple of hundred you are doing pretty good.

We can't use the UK figure to compare here. Aus has the most expensive cars in the world, thanks to the Labor government trying to protect Holden and Ford.

There was an article in private fleet comparing new car prices in Aus, UK and USA, we are paying up to 200% more on new car prices compared to these 2 countries.

Just FYI, I decided to get a Superb when my contract with Passat crashed. Initially I ordered Park Assist ($990 option). Then my wife thought it was just a gimmick and we don't really need it, I delete it. Then I got $1150 off from the original quoted price! obviously I was paying RRP for options (plus stamp duty)!