ESP in Snow

[Cro]

I can tell you from experience in the R36, that ESP, AWD, TC, ABS, Summer high performance tyres and the electronic emergency brake do not help what so ever when you hit ice.

[Cro]

Just called up to get a quote for the Autosock, $200 for a pair.
I'll pick them up next time I'm in Cooma, they look fantastic

[Buck]

Just called up to get a quote for the Autosock, $200 for a pair.
I'll pick them up next time I'm in Cooma, they look fantastic

Is the autosock a legal replacement for chains in VIC ?

[Rocket36]

Is the autosock a legal replacement for chains in VIC ?

Who cares? They are proven in Europe and the USA to be BETTER and MORE EFFECTIVE than chains.

Knowing I'm safer on snow and ice is far more important to me. It's only against the law to not CARRY chains (AFAIK). So if you're worried, carry a set with you but put the autosocks on if you need to instead of the chains.

[tryingavw]

I can tell you from experience in the R36, that ESP, AWD, TC, ABS, Summer high performance tyres and the electronic emergency brake do not help what so ever when you hit ice.

no doubt the laws of physics still apply- if you're going too fast you've got big problems . from MY experience ESP is a huge safety improvement over no ESP.

[Cro]

no doubt the laws of physics still apply- if you're going too fast you've got big problems . from MY experience ESP is a huge safety improvement over no ESP.

I agree 100%
I will never buy a car again without ESP, the safety benefits are just amazing.

[Maverick]

I can tell you from experience in the R36, that ESP, AWD, TC, ABS, Summer high performance tyres and the electronic emergency brake do not help what so ever when you hit ice.

What is a electronic emergency brake?

Unless you're confused with the electric park brake?

[Cro]

What is a electronic emergency brake?

Unless you're confused with the electric park brake?

The electronic park brake acts an an emergency brake when held down whilst driving.
It's mentioned in the manual

[gregozedobe]

I can tell you from experience in the R36, that ESP, AWD, TC, ABS, Summer high performance tyres and the electronic emergency brake do not help what so ever when you hit ice.

I hope you didn't do any damage finding that out

As the tyre people say all the time, the traction your tyres give you is the final interface between your car and the road surface. If your tyres have near zero traction due to slick ice then all the fancy electronic trickery in the world cannot help.

It is the same with AWD cars in the wet (without ice), they can accelerate and corner better than 2wd cars (all else being equal), but they aren't immune to the laws of momentum, and they cannot brake any better than a 2wd car either.

[Cro]

Unfortunately I did
I mowed down a red pole and beached myself on a snow bank.

All sorted now though